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<blockquote data-quote="Preacher" data-source="post: 344609" data-attributes="member: 3813"><p>I understand the 12 championship argument. We have the same arguments with the Browns' fans.</p><p></p><p>Problem is, I think everyone loses sight of exactly what those championships are, and what they equate to in the NFL. The NFL of those championships is the NFC today, AFL the AFC. As a result, those championships, IMO, are the equivalent of winning 14 NFCCG's and taking the conference title. </p><p></p><p>Actually, when you add your two NFC championships, I would say that you have 14 championships. That is quite a feat.</p><p></p><p>The Steelers, have 8 championships right now. That is, we have been the champions of the AFC (old American Football League) 8 times. </p><p></p><p>There is a reason, however, why the NFL begins its count with SB 1. It is even in the NFL Record and Fact book on <a href="http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/History/Super_Bowl_Standings.pdf" target="_blank">NFL.com</a> </p><p></p><p>Notice also, when the SB first came about, it was distinguished from the AFL and NFL championships- as it was called the "World Championship Game". </p><p></p><p>It is for that reason, that the Superbowl era is quite distinct from before, and the league championships won before are not the equivalent of the "world championships" or later named the Superbowl.</p><p></p><p>For that reason, I think when they list stats, what they should list, is BOTH championships, AND SB wins. Such as, GB: 14 Championships, 2 Superbowls. Steelers: 8 Championships, 6 Superbowls. </p><p></p><p>That way, both history and the leagues (conferences) are represented and honored, but the honesty of winning in a 28 team league and a second championship game beyond the league championship-to a world championship is also displayed.</p><p></p><p>I don't discount what the Packers did. It is part of what has built the league today, and continues to drive what the Packers are. There is no way to discount that. I also think however, there needs to be a recognition that there IS a distinction between Superbowls and championships.</p><p></p><p>It is not like the NHL, which has always been the same league, and has just grown in size.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Preacher, post: 344609, member: 3813"] I understand the 12 championship argument. We have the same arguments with the Browns' fans. Problem is, I think everyone loses sight of exactly what those championships are, and what they equate to in the NFL. The NFL of those championships is the NFC today, AFL the AFC. As a result, those championships, IMO, are the equivalent of winning 14 NFCCG's and taking the conference title. Actually, when you add your two NFC championships, I would say that you have 14 championships. That is quite a feat. The Steelers, have 8 championships right now. That is, we have been the champions of the AFC (old American Football League) 8 times. There is a reason, however, why the NFL begins its count with SB 1. It is even in the NFL Record and Fact book on [URL="http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/History/Super_Bowl_Standings.pdf"]NFL.com[/URL] Notice also, when the SB first came about, it was distinguished from the AFL and NFL championships- as it was called the "World Championship Game". It is for that reason, that the Superbowl era is quite distinct from before, and the league championships won before are not the equivalent of the "world championships" or later named the Superbowl. For that reason, I think when they list stats, what they should list, is BOTH championships, AND SB wins. Such as, GB: 14 Championships, 2 Superbowls. Steelers: 8 Championships, 6 Superbowls. That way, both history and the leagues (conferences) are represented and honored, but the honesty of winning in a 28 team league and a second championship game beyond the league championship-to a world championship is also displayed. I don't discount what the Packers did. It is part of what has built the league today, and continues to drive what the Packers are. There is no way to discount that. I also think however, there needs to be a recognition that there IS a distinction between Superbowls and championships. It is not like the NHL, which has always been the same league, and has just grown in size. [/QUOTE]
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