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    Params: post, 475371, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:36:"El Guapo, post: 475043, member: 5830";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:46:"[quote="El Guapo, post: 475043, member: 5830"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:1517:"I'm a big TT guy and have freely admitted it. Although in my book his doodoo smells like everyone elses, not like roses. That said... Wolf did a much better job in the first rounds with OL: 1st Round Picks - Aaron Taylor (1992), John Michels (1996), Ross Verba (1997) 2nd Round Picks - Mike Wahle (1998), Chad Clifton (2000) 3rd Round Picks - Earl Dotson (1993), Mike Flanagan (1996) That's quite impressive because of historical perspective. Taylor and Michels were good but didn't play with us long, and Flanagan was a medical unknown until he hit his prime. Ted Thompson's OL picks: 1st Round - Bryan Bulaga (2010), Derek Sherrod (2011) 2nd Round - Daryn Colledge (2006) 3rd Round - Jason Spitz (2006) Wolf was in charge of 10 drafts to Thompson's 8 drafts thus far. Of all of their offensive linemen picks, the average round was 3.9 for Wolf and 4.27 for Thompson, meaning that Thompson hasn't used as many high picks on OL. In his first 8 drafts, Wolf drafted 14 offensive linemen and Thompson has drafted 15. One could argue that Wolf placed a higher value on OL but it could also be that draft position and quality of linemen available at the Packers' pick play into the equation. The biggest issue from what I outlined above is that it appears TT hit on Bulaga, Sherrod is a medical uncertainty, and Spitz and Colledge never reached their potential....serviceable to average but not anchors of the OL by any stretch of the imagination. Most of Wolf's OL picks in the first three rounds were all studs.";}}i:1;s:505:" I'll tell ya I'm the first guy to dismiss stats but as this isn't so much a stat as a statement - it's telling. TT always talks about the "big guys" and that speaks volumes. I liked the two first round picks but I think we all agree we're dipping into that pool again this year. I'm holding out hopes that Barrett Jones falls to us. The best center in the draft and talented enough to play anywhere on the line. I'm still holding out hope on Sherrod and Datko as being serviceable. Both have good upside.";}, 1458829234, 1464408760
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    Params: post, 475395, a:1:{i:0;s:541:"To say that Campen is not accountable because of someone else's decision to go to ZB is pretty modernist. Traditionally when you take a job, you assume responsibility. I know that's old-fashioned but it happens to be true. I like Bum Phillip's high regard for good coaching as in good coaches being able to: "..take hiz'n and beat your'n; or, take you'n and beat hiz'n." I don't expect Campen to be anywhere near that. But I do expect an occasional 100-yard rusher and adequate QB protection. Can he do that? Six years of futility says no.";}, 1458829234, 1464408760
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