Stat geek may have a point about Rodgers

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http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2...romo-moves-up/


An interesting article that builds off of what a lot of statistical analysts have been saying the past few years in that passing yards per attempt is the one major statistic to look at when judging QB's.
the actual website is NFLStatAnalysis and there's an interesting breakdown of why Rodgers' rating is killed by all the sacks (I had to go to the site to see this). http://www.nflstatanalysis.net/2009/...gh-week-7.html

Passer Rankings: Romo Moves Up

By Luis DeLoureiro Luis DeLoureiro, a self-described “schlep who is using a geeky Web site as a way to work through an early midlife crisis,” is building a better passer rating. His complete ratings, including the movement (in rank) from Week 6 as well as comparisons to each player’s traditional rating, are available at NFLStatAnalysis.net:
Not only did Tony Romo justify his lofty spot in my rankings, but he also moved up one spot to No. 3 after a big day (9.6 yards per attempt) against the Falcons.
Romo receives a lot of criticism, but is it warranted? According to ColdHardFootballFacts, Romo is now in the top 5 in career Y/A. In fact, among the top 5, only Romo and Steve Young have played since 1960. These are some pretty impressive stats for a guy who catches a lot of grief.
Although Alex Smith does not qualify (based on attempts) for the cumulative rating, he had a great week and may be worth keeping an eye on.
Movers in the rankings:
* Peyton Manning took back the top spot after Brees, despite a 4th-quarter comeback, had a relatively weak day against a poor Miami pass defense.
* Philip Rivers moved up 4 spots after posting an 8.9 Y/A and 3 TDs against K.C.
* Aaron Rodgers moved up 3 spots after decimating the Browns. More importantly, he didn’t take any sacks in the victory. Speaking of Rodgers, I recently started a series of Deep Dives into why some players have the rankings they do. This Sunday, he didn’t get sacked at all — of course, he was playing the Browns. The first was about how Rodgers’s sacks are hurting his ranking. I also did a follow-up Deep Dive into Rodgers’s success on third downs.
* Further down in the rankings, Carson Palmer, Mark Sanchez and Jake Delhomme moved up 4, 4 and 6 spots, respectively.
* Eli dropped 3 spots after throwing 3 picks and posting a 5.5 Y/A against a middle-of-the-road Arizona defense.
* Despite a victory, Ben Roethlisberger dropped 5 spots (from 5 to 10) after going for 5.3 yards per attempt against the Vikings. Side note: At some point I plan on digging into why teams sometimes win despite poor QB play. This week, Big Ben didn’t even have to show up. The Steelers held the Vikings somewhat in check and the defense scored 14 of the team’s 27 points.
* Matt Ryan dropped 6 spots. Ryan had a Y/A of 4.5 against a Dallas team that ranks 16th in Y/A defense. Ryan, who had only been sacked twice all season - and hadn’t been sacked since Week 1 - was sacked 4 times for 24 yards. His single-week rating was -6.84 (see bottom table) — good for 24th out of 28 eligible quarterbacks. Ryan’s poor day was not just a function of the sacks. He only gained 198 yards on 35 pass attempts for an unadjusted Y/A of 5.6 — a yard and a half below his average for the season. I don’t think two games constitute a trend, but after a sparkling day against the 49ers in Week 5, Ryan has posted back-to-back Y/As below 6.
* After climbing the rankings for a few weeks, Brett Favre dropped three spots with his clunker against the Steelers (5.4 Y/A — no TDs and one INT).
Here are the rankings. The methodology is explained here.
1 Peyton Manning 5.75
2 Drew Brees 5.59
3 Tony Romo 4.54
4 Philip Rivers 3.83
5 Matt Schaub 3.75
6 Eli Manning 3.32
7 Kevin Kolb 2.96
8 Tom Brady 2.73
9 Kyle Orton 2.70
10 Ben Roethlisberger 2.65
11 Aaron Rodgers 2.65
12 Matt Ryan 1.50
13 Joe Flacco 1.09
14 Kurt Warner 0.59
15 Brett Favre 0.52
16 Carson Palmer 0.40
17 Jay Cutler -0.63
18 Chad Henne -0.66
19 Byron Leftwich -1.02
20 David Garrard -1.08
21 Jason Campbell -1.83
22 Seneca Wallace -2.20
23 Donovan McNabb -2.20
24 Matthew Stafford -2.47
25 Matt Hasselbeck -3.04
26 Marc Bulger -3.37
27 Mark Sanchez -3.57
28 Kerry Collins -3.83
29 Jake Delhomme -3.92
30 Chad Pennington -4.02
31 Shaun Hill -4.46
32 Josh Johnson -4.63
33 Kyle Boller -4.73
34 Trent Edwards -4.83
35 Matt Cassel -5.61
36 JaMarcus Russell -6.42
37 Brady Quinn -7.01
38 Derek Anderson -8.58
WEEK 7 ONLY
1 Aaron Rodgers 17.11
2 Carson Palmer 14.89
3 Tony Romo 11.41
4 Alex Smith 8.03
5 Philip Rivers 6.68
6 Matt Schaub 5.78
7 Mark Sanchez 5.69
8 Tom Brady 4.01
9 Peyton Manning 1.04
10 Jake Delhomme 0.38
11 Kurt Warner 0.29
12 Jason Campbell -0.68
13 Brett Favre -0.80
14 Donovan McNabb -0.97
15 Ryan Fitzpatrick -1.02
16 Ben Roethlisberger -2.31
17 Bruce Gradkowski -2.59
18 Chad Henne -3.36
19 Jay Cutler -3.96
20 Josh Johnson -4.56
21 Drew Brees -5.37
22 Eli Manning -6.17
23 Marc Bulger -6.76
24 Matt Ryan -6.84
25 Derek Anderson -10.15
26 JaMarcus Russell -10.67
27 Shaun Hill -10.95
28 Matt Cassel -15.20
Note: I got some feedback that it was difficult to figure out what the numbers meant. Because the formula was derived from a regression model using points as the dependent variable, the final rating loosely represents the number of points being scored above or below the number of points scored if an “average” quarteback’ were playing instead. So if Drew Brees has a rating of 7, that means that he is responsible for the Saints scoring 7 more points than they would have scored with an average QB in his place.
 

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Seems a bit busy to me, not to mention I could create analysis to support just about any argument. How do you want the end result to trend? Just tell me, and I'll provide you statistics to favor your argument.

At the end of the day, the human eye is pretty good at figuring out which QB is getting it done on a consistent basis and which one isn't.
 

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