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Sports Illustrated article on the porus defense

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1192447/index.htm

    This was my argument back when we had the whole defense sucks

     
  2. Texas9erFan

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    Just checked up the league point differential stats. I was suprised to see Houston at the top of the AFC.

    NFC------------PF / PA / Diff.
    Packers --------382 / 227 / +155
    New Orleans --362 / 252 / +110
    San Francisco -262 / 161 / +101
    Detroit ---------316 / 246 / +70
    Chicago --------288 / 232 / +56
    Dallas ----------270 / 225 / +45
    Atlanta ---------259 / 227 / +32

    AFC
    Houston -------293 / 179 / +114
    New England --331 / 223 / +108
    Baltimore ------272 / 182 / +90
    Pittsburgh -----233 / 188 / +45
    Cincinnati -----259 / 215 / +44
    New York ------256 / 241 / +15
     
  3. longtimefan

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    The Texans have the #1 defense I think
     
  4. Jules

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    Yeah so far the Texans have been kicking butt on defense. Wade has really turned things around, great DC and horrible HC. Texans had issues in New Orleans (but who doesn't on defense) but they have been good all around. They get a better test this weekend though with the Falcons offense but it's in Houston. Houston still may be able to win games with the rookie QB if they can play great D and run the ball effectively.

    And yes I have noticed the Packers when they get the lead give up the yards more often at times in garbage time/prevent. Stats can be misleading at times for this D IMO.
     
  5. Texas9erFan

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    This is why I really like teams with big Ds and running games. They're not so QB dependent. If the QB goes down those pass first offenses are fracked.
     
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    I am sorta hoping Houston can suprise in the AFC and have a small Cinderella story that may even take attention away from the likes of Tim Tebow! I like the sound and swagger at times from the rookie QB from what I have heard. And he
    still has Andre to throw to.....Hey he is a rookie but I am not convinced he can be worse then Leinart either. And as solid as Schaub can be at times he can also choke and I hate to say that.

    I guess I sorta have a soft spot for the Texans as my little brothers of the AFC so to speak.

    If any team in the AFC deserves some luck it is Houston.
     
  7. bozz_2006

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    True enough, but this has become a QB-centric league. Offenses like you've described don't win Super Bowls in this day and age. The 2000 Ravens were a lifetime ago.
     
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    No they don't usually win a SB but they are also the sort of team that gives fits to a team like the Patriots for example in the AFC lately in the playoffs. A run heavy/defensive heavy team with a game managing QB not turning it over has beaten then 3 straight times in the postseason going back to the SB against the Giants.

    For GB I am not sure I see a history of a certain style of team being a huge problem for them so far? Also the Packers offense to me has the most weapons and depth I have seen on an offense I think since the 2005 Colts who had Harrison/Wayne/Stokely and Clark all in the passing game, but behind those guys the depth was poor.

    I still think the GB defense is going to be fine. I know they have had some issues but sometimes a D has to gel too. It's not a dramatically different set of guys on defense from last year is it? I also thought they looked solid enough at times vs. the Lions offense on the road.
     
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    What the Patriots have been coming up against in the past is a defense that is too old and tired to perform well against effective ball control offenses after such a long season. They're gassed. The Patriots D of the past few years is not comparable to the Packers', in my opinion.
     
  10. Texas9erFan

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    Meh... 2000 was yesterday. I don't buy that, bro.

    But that's why we play the game. Ain't it great?!? :D
     
  11. Jules

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    Honest question. How do you feel about Saints at Niners in the divisional round if this game happens?
     
  12. Texas9erFan

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    I hope the weather is bad.

    The Saints have a great passing AND running game. That could make them even tougher than the Packers. It all comes down to the 9er D. If the D can keep them from scoring more than 24 points, then the Niners will have a chance. But I'd say that's true of any team they play.
     
  13. bozz_2006

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    This year's 49ers are the same story as last year's Falcons. And I didn't say 2000 was a lifetime ago. I said the 2000 Ravens were a lifetime ago.
     
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