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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 489399" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I appreciate the kind works and I wasn't being critical with the "ignore" comment. I thought you may have me on ignore because in response to adambr2's question whether or not you had read the Foot ball Outsiders piece, you posted: "No, didn't read it, give me one other who blasts Raji in that game and I'll read them both." That post came after my post #63 in which I quoted what McGinn had to say about Raji in the last game and he sums it up in his first sentence on Raji: "Raji closed with a dud." And BTW, I'm not adamant about Raji's performance in that game, I offered McGinn's comments in response to your initially saying 'no one' criticized Raji's performance in that game and then again with regard to the above exchange. </span> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Actually - again according to McGinn - Raji averaged 53.5 snaps per game in 2010, and "a more manageable 46.8" in 2012. I agree the other players on D have an effect on their teammates but IMO regarding Raji it's mostly with regard to how often he's double-teamed. Of course that should be taken into consideration when rating, defining and/or evaluating his play. I also think Raji takes too many plays off and that's why I posted IMO the best defense for him is the number of snaps he's on the field.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Two points are at the heart of this discussion regarding Raji IMO.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">1. Raji's value to the Packers is enhanced because of their lack of alternatives at NT. As I wrote in post #66, Pickett is being counted upon at DE and he's nearing the end of his career and he and Raji are the only viable NTs on the roster right now. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">2. What makes Raji special is his "size/quickness" combination. For him to be a top tier player, for him to be worth $8M/year that has to translate into him using that quickness to be a disruptive force in the middle of the defense. And the evidence of that disruption is how often he penetrates the offense's side of the LOS. That's something we can use the "eye test" to measure. The statistical correlation is to tackles for loss and pressures. Of course he also has to "hold the point" against double teams but that's not what makes him special at NT. The good news is while he didn't match his production of 2010, he did improve on his performance from 2011 and one measure of that improvement is his increased number of pressures and TFL. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">If we were evaluating a younger Pickett's value as a NT (only) regarding his worth to the team in real and salary cap dollars, we'd be talking about his ability to take on double teams and clog up the middle. While Raji is not as stout vs. the run as that younger Pickett was, he's more valuable because of his quickness. IMO refusing to define or rate Raji on what makes him special makes no sense because if we do so, he's worth less than the traditional NT like Pickett. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I agree with HardRightEdge I think having Raji play under his current deal this season makes sense and if they can't come to an agreement next season, tag him. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 489399, member: 4300"] [FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Arial]I appreciate the kind works and I wasn't being critical with the "ignore" comment. I thought you may have me on ignore because in response to adambr2's question whether or not you had read the Foot ball Outsiders piece, you posted: "No, didn't read it, give me one other who blasts Raji in that game and I'll read them both." That post came after my post #63 in which I quoted what McGinn had to say about Raji in the last game and he sums it up in his first sentence on Raji: "Raji closed with a dud." And BTW, I'm not adamant about Raji's performance in that game, I offered McGinn's comments in response to your initially saying 'no one' criticized Raji's performance in that game and then again with regard to the above exchange. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Actually - again according to McGinn - Raji averaged 53.5 snaps per game in 2010, and "a more manageable 46.8" in 2012. I agree the other players on D have an effect on their teammates but IMO regarding Raji it's mostly with regard to how often he's double-teamed. Of course that should be taken into consideration when rating, defining and/or evaluating his play. I also think Raji takes too many plays off and that's why I posted IMO the best defense for him is the number of snaps he's on the field.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]Two points are at the heart of this discussion regarding Raji IMO.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]1. Raji's value to the Packers is enhanced because of their lack of alternatives at NT. As I wrote in post #66, Pickett is being counted upon at DE and he's nearing the end of his career and he and Raji are the only viable NTs on the roster right now. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]2. What makes Raji special is his "size/quickness" combination. For him to be a top tier player, for him to be worth $8M/year that has to translate into him using that quickness to be a disruptive force in the middle of the defense. And the evidence of that disruption is how often he penetrates the offense's side of the LOS. That's something we can use the "eye test" to measure. The statistical correlation is to tackles for loss and pressures. Of course he also has to "hold the point" against double teams but that's not what makes him special at NT. The good news is while he didn't match his production of 2010, he did improve on his performance from 2011 and one measure of that improvement is his increased number of pressures and TFL. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]If we were evaluating a younger Pickett's value as a NT (only) regarding his worth to the team in real and salary cap dollars, we'd be talking about his ability to take on double teams and clog up the middle. While Raji is not as stout vs. the run as that younger Pickett was, he's more valuable because of his quickness. IMO refusing to define or rate Raji on what makes him special makes no sense because if we do so, he's worth less than the traditional NT like Pickett. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]I agree with HardRightEdge I think having Raji play under his current deal this season makes sense and if they can't come to an agreement next season, tag him. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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