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Sherman going to Texans?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Aceschnd, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. Aceschnd

    Aceschnd Cheesehead

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  2. JbShell

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    if he is turning down OC positions why would he take a Offensive line coach spot even if it did have the AHC slot with it
     
  3. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    He's turned down a few OC jobs. lol


    The difference with this job position is they want to make him Asst. HC along with being the OL coach.


    edit, oops i jus re-said everything you did lol my bad hah
     
  4. Zero2Cool

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    Sherman considers Texans' assistant offer

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    By Len Pasquarelli
    ESPN.com

    Former Green Bay Packers coach Mike Sherman met Friday with Houston Texans officials and is considering an offer to join first-year head coach Gary Kubiak's staff in the role of assistant head coach/offensive line.

    Sherman and Kubiak worked together on the Texas A&M staff under then-Aggies coach R.C. Slocum in 1992-93 and are said to have a solid relationship. Landing Sherman, who has rebuffed assistant coach offers from other franchises in the past 10 days, would be a coup for Kubiak as he continues to assemble his first staff.

    Sherman, 51, interviewed for head coach vacancies in New Orleans Saints and Buffalo Bills but lost out to Sean Payton and Dick Jauron, respectively, for those positions. He has also been approached in recent days by the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills, in both cases for the offensive coordinator spot, but opted not to pursue those opportunities.

    Whether the Texans, and more specifically, Kubiak, can attract his interest remains to be seen. It is believed, however, that Sherman is more intrigued by the Texans job than he was the other assistant coach opportunities that he eschewed.

    Dismissed by the Packers the day after the 2005 season concluded, Sherman compiled a 59-43 mark, including playoffs, in six seasons. Green Bay went to the playoffs four times under Sherman, once as a wild card and three times as division champions, but never advanced beyond the divisional round. His 2005 team, which finished 4-12, was decimated by injuries.

    Given his strong track record, most league observers were surprised that Sherman did not land one of the head coach spots that became available after the season. It seems that he was victimized by the trend toward hiring first-time head coaches and, perhaps, by the compensation level he enjoyed under his Green Bay contract.

    Sherman signed a two-year contract extension last summer that runs through 2007 and is worth $3.2 annually. The Packers are liable for those salaries and, if Sherman takes the job in Houston, his salaries there will be deducted from the amount Green Bay owes him.

    There have been no announcements from the Texans regarding assistant coach hires, but it is believed Kubiak has finalized deals with six to seven staffers. One sticking point remains the defensive coordinator position. Kubiak had hoped to hire Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator Richard Smith and Arizona Cardinals linebackers coach Frank Bush as his co-coordinators. The Cardinals, though, denied permission for Bush, who recently signed a new contract in Arizona, to interview for the job.

    Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com.


    That part caught my attention.
     
  5. IPBprez

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    That's the only part of all this, that I have problems with - it should have been setup with other Teams taking over that Salary - you know, allow him the salary only if he 'doesn't' find another job.... good thing Coaches salaries don't come out of the Salary Cap $$$$.
     
  6. Hammer

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    Don't we play the AFC east next year?
    Hammer
     
  7. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    Yes, but we also play the teams that finished in the same spot we did in the AFC South and NFC East to fill out the schedule.

    Edit--my bad, it's the NFC South we play, so New Orleans will be on the sched :oops:
     
  8. Zero2Cool

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    Whoa!! I didn't put that post there. what the crazy peach dust is going on!!



    Shhh don't tell too many people that, cuz ya know the ones who gripe about the Packers not retaining Wahle and Rivera will come out of the woodwork!! heh
     
  9. P@ck66

    P@ck66 Banned Banned

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    I don't know...maybe it's just me....

    But does anyone else feel the Mike Sherman's trying desperately to sign somewhere....ANYWHERE in the NFL....before he's forgotten like Jim Fassel and other has been coaches???

    What do ya' think?
     
  10. arrowgargantuan

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    :wink:

    i'm still trying to figure out how Jauron got another job :-? ...as far as Sherman goes, im surprised he's even entertaining anything besides a HC gig.
     
  11. Bruce

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    I think multiple factors would go into such a decision:

    ~~ an opportunity to get his family (including young children) away from a split community on their father's performance and crazed fans on one side that still spew hateful comments like we read here (even in the last couple of days) "Sherman is a fat a$$ed retard" and worse in other forums who don't monitor as closely -- you can imagine how children carry and express what they hear at home.

    ~~ an opportunity to be the assistant head coach in a building/rebuilding situation in Houston

    ~~ he and his wife's close connections to and in Texas

    ~~ his relationship with Gary Kubiak -- they coached together when Kubiak was beginning his coaching career at Texas A&M

    ~~ the courtesy and respect that the Texan's owner and lead consultant Dan Reeve's have shown and expressed for Mike Sherman
     
  12. all about da packers

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    All excellent points Bruce. Those reasons above are why I think he is even considering such a job. Regradless, the Texans have no where to go but up.
     
  13. jdlax

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    I wonder if Rossley is "Lucky Pierre" in the Sherman/Kubiak relationship.
     
  14. arrowgargantuan

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    yeah that sounds sensible enough...i just can't get around the demotion part of it. i suppose it happens all the time though.
     
  15. 4packgirl

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    ok, let me guess, bruce - you're a psychiatrist - am i right???? :wink:
     
  16. Raider Pride

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    The Packer community best be kind to the man.

    The situation is.... The dollar amount that he signs for will be deducted from what the Packers owe him which is 3.2 Million anually over the next 2 years.

    If Sherman wanted revenge... All he has to do is sign a two year contract with the Texans for one dollar a year.

    He is going to make 6.4 Million over the next two years regardless of what the Texans sign him for. The only question that remains is how much the Community owned Packers will pay and how much Bob McNair will pay?

    RP
     
  17. P@ck66

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    Well...this is about the position I think Sherman should have risen to in the NFL all along...BUT NO HIGHER...

    I would say it's right for his skill level and ability...maybe...

    JD4Shizzle..

    I was wondering about Rossley too...I'm sure in Sherman's contract with the Texans he was have a "Rossley clause"..meaning they come as a "package deal"....

    Maybe he can get him a position as equipment manager picking up jocks and doing the laundry for the players....that would be about equivalent to Rossley's "skill level"....and hey...he'd be in the NFL again..!!

    (Guess Rossley wasn't correct about being qualified to be a HC anywhere in the NFL...oh well...)
     
  18. Bruce

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    If I were, I can assure you I would have prescribed medication to Pack@666 :twisted: long ago for his obsessive delusional hatred :crazy: of Mike Sherman -- that as you can see in the post above is still playing out well after he was let go as coach of the Packers.


    Only playing with you 66 :lol:
     
  19. IPBprez

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    I would second that comment - all reasons listed are extremely valid in Mike Sherman's approach - it also gives him "a chance" to possibly become the Head Coach of the Texans.. somewhere along the way. I'm not saying he'll end up with it - but the doorway is right there... Kubiak is a pretty decent setup guy... - in the end, one wonders if this dual Head Coach is going to be the new flavor of the NFL, as well.

    Good points, Bruce!
     
  20. P@ck66

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    That's ok...Bruce..

    I admit..I could use some meds...no shame in that in this day and age...

    What do ya' got Bruce...Klonopin? Thorzine? Lithium?
     
  21. packedhouse01

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    Listen Mike Sherman wasn't a good coach and he sure as heck wasn't a good judge of personel. He was however a really fine person. He doesn't deserve being personally criticized. I have to have to be honest, when he first took over as coach I was so impressed with the effort he made to create team chemistry. I thought his players genuinely liked him. What happened is that this wore out because he just wasn't tough enough and there never seemed to be any consequences for poor play. If I heard it once I've hear hundreds of times; we'll get it fixed. No Mike, not we, your players must tackle better, your line must block better, your running backs must hold on to the ball, you quarterback cannot just throw the ball up for grabs. I think he got it wrong because he didn't ever seem to hold anyone accountable for mistakes. The one time he did, he fired the wrong coordinator.
     

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