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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PackerRyche" data-source="post: 860032" data-attributes="member: 3440">I'm glad someone found the video.  Wagner actually pushed Jones all the way back to the 15 yard line when forward progress was stopped at the 1.  Malicious? No, I don't think so.  A penalty?  Yes, in my opinion.  Hard to hear a whistle?  Maybe, but the other players all seemed to hear it.  Wagner knew he had gone too far when he immediately pleaded for leniency with the ref.  It was the ref who helped Jones up while holding Wagner away along with a second ref.  I've seen dead ball fouls called for less.We'll have to agree to disagree.In the end, it was immaterial since we scored on the next play, but could have been first down instead of third.</blockquote>

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