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    Params: post, 357099, a:1:{i:0;s:489:"How bout the Democrats that RAN away from their job? They were elected by the public do to a certain JOB.....They dont agree with doing that job, so they run to Illinois to avoid it all.. Heard a reporter on the radio that found one of these guys and asked a question on the air.....Why arent you back in Wi to do the job you were voted to do... Person had no answer I would be demanding a recall.... Even if you dont agree with Walkers tactics, at least he is trying to do his job..";}, 1458829234, 1464330456
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    Params: post, 357100, a:6:{i:0;s:75:"It's interesting that Joe Klein - a man who is certainly no conservative - ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"url";s:6:"option";s:175:"http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/18/wisconsin-the-hemlock-revolution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+timeblogs/swampland+%28TIME:+Swampland%29";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:183:"[URL="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/18/wisconsin-the-hemlock-revolution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+timeblogs/swampland+%28TIME:+Swampland%29"]";i:1;s:6:"[/URL]";}s:8:"children";a:2:{i:0;s:40:"has written this piece for the blog at ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:13:"TIME Magazine";}}}}i:2;s:24:". Here's a little bit: ";i:3;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:3:{i:0;s:414:"An election was held in Wisconsin last November. The Republicans won. In a democracy, there are consequences to elections and no one, not even the public employees unions, are exempt from that. There are no guarantees that labor contracts, including contracts governing the most basic rights of unions, can't be renegotiated, or terminated for that matter. We hold elections to decide those basic parameters. ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"b";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[B]";i:1;s:4:"[/B]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:404:"And it seems to me that Governor Scott Walker's basic requests are modest ones--asking public employees to contribute more to their pension and health care plans, though still far less than most private sector employees do. He is also trying to limit the unions' abilities to negotiate work rules--and this is crucial when it comes to the more efficient operation of government in a difficult time.";}}i:2;s:510:" When I covered local government in New York 30 years ago, the school janitors (then paid a robust $60,000 plus per year) had negotiated the "right" to mop the cafeteria floors only once a week. And we all know about the near-impossibility of getting criminal and morally questionable--to say nothing of less than competent--teachers fired. The negotiation of such contracts were acts of collusion rather than of mediation. Government officials were, in effect, bribing their most activist constituents.";}}i:4;s:2:" ";i:5;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:212:" Public employees unions are an interesting hybrid. Industrial unions are organized against the might and greed of ownership. Public employees unions are organized against the might and greed...of the public? ";}}}, 1458829234, 1464330456
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    Params: post, 357101, a:1:{i:0;s:586:"Thanks for the link, LombardiChick. I've been hearing for 4 days now that the Police & Fire Unions have been exempted BECAUSE of their endorsement of Walker. Thanks for setting the record straight. I just watched a repeat of AC 360 and he pretty much said the same thing you did in the reply above this one. By walking out on their job, these "Democratic" legislators have usurped the democracy their supposed to be upholding. They're taking their ball and going home after they don't like the time-out rule change. Spolied brats it seems to me. I agree 100% with longtimefan as well.";}, 1458829234, 1464330456
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    Params: post, 357102, a:1:{i:0;s:427:"I just wanted to chime in that the many, many people doing the protesting today and yesterday are out of state and were transported up here by unions throughout the USA to join in. Also those cowardly democrats are doing no different than the stupid teachers out there that figure, **** them. Our Democrats are the Cutler of Wisconsin. Also I saw a "I blame Favre sign." Who didn't guess he would get dragged into it. LOL";}, 1458829234, 1464330456
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    Params: post, 357103, a:1:{i:0;s:566:"2010. President Obama, the Senate and House democrats ram "Obmacare" down the throats of the country. Republicans cry foul. They say it's against peoples rights to make them buy medical care. Democrats don't care and vote it in anyway. 2011. Gov Walker and the WI Senate and House are now attempting to do pretty much the same thing with the bill in WI. The Democrats are crying foul. The say you can't take away the "rights" of the people in the unions. The Republicans don't seem to care and will probably vote it in anyway. Anyone else see the Irony in this?";}, 1458829234, 1464330456
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