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  2. SELECT thread.*
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    		NULL AS thread_read_date,
    		0 AS thread_reply_banned,
    		0 AS thread_is_watched,
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    		LEFT JOIN xf_user AS user ON
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    Params: 35562
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  3. SELECT node.*, forum.*
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    	permission.cache_value AS node_permission_cache,
    		NULL AS forum_read_date
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    INNER JOIN xf_node AS node ON (node.node_id = forum.node_id)
    
    	LEFT JOIN xf_permission_cache_content AS permission
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  4. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*, EWRporta2_authors.*
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    	INNER JOIN xf_thread ON (xf_thread.thread_id = EWRporta2_articles.thread_id)
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  5. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, EWRporta2_authors.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*
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  6. SELECT post.*
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  12. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*, EWRporta2_authors.*
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    	INNER JOIN xf_thread ON (xf_thread.thread_id = EWRporta2_articles.thread_id)
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  14. INSERT INTO xf_session_activity
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  15. SELECT title, phrase_text
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  16. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    Params: post, 438759, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:35:"Brandon, post: 438753, member: 6054";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:45:"[quote="Brandon, post: 438753, member: 6054"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:111:"I might be alone in this, but I still think SpyGate is a far more horrendous act than this "Bounty System" is. ";}}i:1;s:458:" So stealing signals and plays, which dates back to the beginning of sports (and competition of any kind) is less acceptable than intentionally trying to hurt another player, affecting their health and potentially their livelihood? That's like saying Tanya Harding was okay in taking out Nancy Kerrigan, but if she had videotaped her practices and gained an advantage there, she would have been over the line. And no, I do not condone what the Pats did.";}, 1458829234, 1464415019
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  17. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    Params: post, 438760, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:35:"Brandon, post: 438753, member: 6054";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:45:"[quote="Brandon, post: 438753, member: 6054"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:1565:"I might be alone in this, but I still think SpyGate is a far more horrendous act than this "Bounty System" is. I can pretty much guarantee you that MOST teams have this kind of thing going on. Maybe not a coach paying a player, which is the real issue here, but among players you can bet that they probably make wagers on how well they do in a game, or how hard of a hit they can dish out. This is football, not pansieball, hard hits happens so why not motivate one another with a little extra cash on the line? I will say that "cart hits", in suggesting that you want to put someone in the hospital is a bit far, but your goal as a pass rusher is to lay out as much brutality as you can, that is WHY they work out and get their muscles big and strong.. so they can play strong. There is nothing illegal about hitting a player hard, so why should this tarnish how the Saints play? SpyGate on the other hand, you have a coach that is one of the most "respected" in the league with the cream of the crop in talent, yet they still feel the need to steal play signals to give them a tactical advantage on the field? Now THAT was deserving of more severe punishment. You don't exactly look like a genius coach when you knowingly steal signals and have an unfair advantage. I don't support a coach giving their players incentives as their contract of millions should be incentive enough to play hard, but as I mentioned you can probably wager that these "bounty programs" exist between team mates on many teams. The Saints just happened to be the one to get caught.";}}i:1;s:3002:" This stuff has been going on for years, and most of the old timers did it too. Ditka's Bears, the "Greatest defense ever" paid for knock out hits, according to the man himself, and he didn't see where it was a big deal. And that I believe, for as many quarterbacks the Bears put out of games in the 80's and for as many turnovers they had, I'm sure they all were getting bonuses. Joe Gibbs has admitted to doing it, and he don't care either. He used to hand out hundred dollar bills for knock out hits. Go back and watch all those great Redskins defenses too that he coached, and they were killing machines. I always wondered too, did the Cowboys pay a bonus to who ever put Jim Kelly out of the game in the Super Bowl when they ran the score up to 52 points on the Bills? And how about the Giants putting Montana out of the 1990 NFC Championship game? Who ever broke his ribs probably got a major bonus for taking out the leader of that offense. Even more so, what gets over looked is the Baltimore Ravens admitted back in 2008 they were running the bounty system in the playoffs to take Mendenhall and Ward out of a game against the Steelers. And if the Ravens did it, you can believe the Steelers did it in return to them. I'll also say, that the Kurt Warner knock out was a legal hit, and even funnier, Kurt Warner is not bitching about it. He's said it was a legal hit himself! Do you see Brett Favre whining to the media that he didn't make it to the Super Bowl cause the Saints were trying to kill him? Regardless all the dumb things Favre has done, I don't see him making a big deal about it and he took that game like a man, so for that, I will not say a bad thing about it regarding the NFC Championship. But what gets me is, no one investigated the Giants this year. You know the team that was faking injuries in games to stop the hurry up offense. While the Saints get the hammer, what about the Giants? They also admitted in interviews that they were trying to target Kyle Williams head in the NFC Championship because of all the concussions he had, made him "an easy target". So what the Saints did to quarterbacks knocking them around was bad, but the Giants was OK? I think Spy gate was worse, but Bellichek didn't get suspended, so why should Payton? Payton don't even run that defense, let alone control anything that happens on that side of the ball.But you know, the Pats, and Giants, the Eastern biased to the NFL, can get by with everything, because they are the Pats and Giants that everyone loves as a big market team and in the Super Bowl as 2 crappy teams that had no business being there this year. I don't like Gregg Williams as a defensive coordinator either, never have. He blitzes way too much, but I wouldn't be shocked if the Saints were one of 20 teams that does this in the league. That's what I will put at it. 20 years ago, I wouldn't argue that everyone did it, and in today's league, I still will argue that it's an active thing going on.";}, 1458829234, 1464415019
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    Params: post, 438761, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:183:"The Saints blatantly broke the rules in place on bounty programs which directly coincides with the League's strong policies on play safety in which this is blatant disregard for that.";}}i:1;s:883:" Player safety policy is not the issue here, the issue is one coach paying another player to hit another player. If there was no money on the line and the coach told a player "Hey, go put that QB's face in the dirt and don't be nice about it" there would be NO punishment, because so long as the hit is legitimate there is no penalty for playing hard. The only reason this is a problem is because there is money being involved, it isn't about the hits themselves. Paying one player to hit another player also gives you NO advantage during game time, none whatsoever. On the other hand, STEALING signals that coordinate with how an entire defensive or offensive side of the ball gives you what you need to win games, and that is far more egregious in my opinion. Again I'm not defending the Saints actions, but there is no sense whining about the actual hits.. this is football.";}, 1458829234, 1464415019
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    Params: post, 438762, a:5:{i:0;s:83:"This is how I pictured GM Loomis and Coach Payton at the beginning of last season: ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"img";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[IMG]";i:1;s:6:"[/IMG]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:53:"http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4495/cheatersz.jpg";}}i:2;s:107:" This is how I picture SUSPENDED GM Loomis and SUSPENDED Coach Payton at the beginning of this season: ";i:3;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"img";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[IMG]";i:1;s:6:"[/IMG]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:50:"http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2121/golfme.jpg";}}i:4;s:24:" Enough said... ~Val";}, 1458829234, 1464415019
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  20. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    Params: post, 438763, a:3:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:408:"So stealing signals and plays, which dates back to the beginning of sports (and competition of any kind) is less acceptable than intentionally trying to hurt another player, affecting their health and potentially their livelihood? That's like saying Tanya Harding was okay in taking out Nancy Kerrigan, but if she had videotaped her practices and gained an advantage there, she would have been over the line.";}}i:1;s:1014:" This is the dumbest argument you could have made, your example is terrible. Tanya Harding paid some low-lives to take a weapon and bust Kerrigan's legs. If a Saints player had maybe brass knuckles in their gloves and was throwing punches while tackling, you might have some debate but this is far from the case. The actual hits taking place were NOT flagged and thus in-game they were as clean as they get. In football you take hard hits, if you don't want to see hard hits then feel free to watch flag football. It is every players job to inflict as much pain as possible. Players don't even hide the fact that when a player is knowingly injured, they will INTENTIONALLY target that area. There is nothing dirty about wanting to punish the other team on the field, and if you think there is then you are watching the wrong sport. As I said, the issue here is a coach paying another player. If it was a players bounty between one another, the punishment would be non-existent or far less severe. Bank on it.";i:2;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"i";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[I]";i:1;s:4:"[/I]";}s:8:"children";a:0:{}}}, 1458829234, 1464415019
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  89. library/ThemeHouse/Listener/ControllerPreDispatch/20150911.php
  90. library/UnreadPostCount/Listener.php
  91. library/XenForo/ControllerHelper/ForumThreadPost.php
  92. library/XenForo/ControllerHelper/Abstract.php
  93. library/XenForo/Model/Thread.php
  94. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/Thread.php
  95. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/Thread.php
  96. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Model/Thread.php
  97. library/UnreadPostCount/Model/Thread.php
  98. library/Dark/PostRating/Model.php
  99. library/XenForo/Model/Forum.php
  100. library/XenForo/Helper/String.php
  101. library/XenForo/Helper/Discussion.php
  102. library/XenForo/Model/Post.php
  103. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/Post.php
  104. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Model/Post.php
  105. library/EWRporta2/Model/Post.php
  106. library/EWRporta2/Model/Articles.php
  107. library/XenForo/Model/Attachment.php
  108. library/XenForo/Model/Node.php
  109. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/Node.php
  110. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Categories.php
  111. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Forums.php
  112. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/View.php
  113. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/Abstract.php
  114. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/IgnoreThread.php
  115. library/XenForo/Helper/Cookie.php
  116. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/HtmlPublic.php
  117. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Abstract.php
  118. library/XenForo/Template/Public.php
  119. library/XenForo/Template/Abstract.php
  120. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Thread/View.php
  121. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Base.php
  122. library/XenForo/View.php
  123. library/EWRporta2/Listener/ViewPublic.php
  124. library/XenForo/BbCode/Parser.php
  125. library/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  126. library/EWRporta2/Listener/BbCode.php
  127. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  128. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  129. library/EWRporta2/BbCode/Formatter.php
  130. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Helper/Message.php
  131. library/XenForo/BbCode/TextWrapper.php
  132. library/WhoHasVisited/Listener.php
  133. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  134. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  135. library/Dark/TaigaChat/EventListener/NavigationTabs.php
  136. library/EWRporta2/Listener/NavTabs.php
  137. library/XenForo/Template/FileHandler.php
  138. library/XenForo/Helper/File.php
  139. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,thread_view.php
  140. library/SeparateStickyAndNormal/Listener.php
  141. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Template.php
  142. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,ignore_thread_tool.php
  143. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,page_nav.php
  144. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Posts.php
  145. library/XenForo/Model/Avatar.php
  146. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating_message_user_info.php
  147. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_quote.php
  148. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating.php
  149. library/XenForo/Helper/Criteria.php
  150. library/XenForo/Debug.php
  151. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,PAGE_CONTAINER.php
  152. library/FreePro/Helper.php
  153. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,EWRporta2_Navtabs.php
  154. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Json.php