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Why did nobody cry when earlier in the year favre almost ended Eugene Wilson's year with one of the dirtiest, most chicken **** crack back blocks I've ever seen?
Yep, that's what I said too...
Why did nobody cry when earlier in the year favre almost ended Eugene Wilson's year with one of the dirtiest, most chicken **** crack back blocks I've ever seen?
Angryguy, have anything to say?
Old news, been discussed...Yup
N.F.L. Admits Officiating Mistakes in Title Games - The Fifth Down Blog - NYTimes.com
Again the non or bad calls did not lose the game for minn. But the NFL knows there were some low blows.
Old news, been discussed...
And in other news, water is still wet, the sun is still hot and angry guy is still an angry whiner. Waaaaaaaaaah.
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I havn't been here in a couple of days so didn't know if this thread had been updated. I didn't read all the posts.
I think the dirt in clays jock could provide a more sensible post than the juvenale drivel that you excel at.
Just for the sake of an argument. And I am not saying this would have happened just that it could have. Say they call the penalty on the Saints for the hit to Brett's legs. That would have negated the interception and given the ball back to the Vikes at the Saints 19 yard line with a first down. It would have been very possible for them to come away with at least 3 points.Yup
N.F.L. Admits Officiating Mistakes in Title Games - The Fifth Down Blog - NYTimes.com
Again the non or bad calls did not lose the game for minn. But the NFL knows there were some low blows.
Just for the record, I think the lost fumbles cost them the game.
Yup
N.F.L. Admits Officiating Mistakes in Title Games - The Fifth Down Blog - NYTimes.com
Again the non or bad calls did not lose the game for minn. But the NFL knows there were some low blows.
My very first post after the game I referenced that I thought the refs clearly favored the Saints.Just for the sake of an argument. And I am not saying this would have happened just that it could have. Say they call the penalty on the Saints for the hit to Brett's legs. That would have negated the interception and given the ball back to the Vikes at the Saints 19 yard line with a first down. It would have been very possible for them to come away with at least 3 points.
Or, Peterson could have lost the ball on the next play. You just never know.
So the non-call could have been costly. We will never know for sure.
Just for the record, I think the lost fumbles cost them the game.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_oKVuzExJw]YouTube - Green Bay Packers screwed by refs against Arizona Cardinals in ovetime (HQ)[/ame]Seems like people want to deny that there wasn't any pulling or jerking of the face mask of the face mask(which there clearly was). BF/Vike fans want Pack fans to admit to BF getting dirty hits, but when they downplay a clear face mask on the final play which is basically like a late hit. Never mind that it was even a face mask, it was a blow to the head to the QB. Please don't talk about bad calls, because Packer fans know we had bad calls and don't need BF/Vike fans to help them out. Again, not saying that is the sole reason we lost, but it contributed to the loss. It's great that the VP of officiating admitted to a bad non-call, I'm glad he's admitted something like that. I wish he would at least acknowledge more bad calls in the future.
What judgement call? Hands to the face of the QB is a penalty. There is no interpretation of that - either you did or you didn't. The only interpretation is on a face mask call... On a non-QB the interpretation of the face mask is the issue on a QB it sort of becomes moot doesn't it?The ref didnt interput the face mask that way..
They never said it was right or wrong non call, just the ref made a judgment call
For the record, there was a fine levied today.
$20,000.
kinda makes you go hhhmmmm.
Yeah, and Berry was fined for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Rodgers that wasn't called. I don't really care as to what Mike Pereira says since he clearly just wants to back his refs up on almost everything and doesn't want to admit that many things. I find it funny Vikes/BF fans downplayed the face mask on Rodgers on the last play saying he fumbled it after he had the incidental contact(which it wasn't incidental). Seems like people want to deny that there wasn't any pulling or jerking of the face mask of the face mask(which there clearly was). BF/Vike fans want Pack fans to admit to BF getting dirty hits, but when they downplay a clear face mask on the final play which is basically like a late hit. Never mind that it was even a face mask, it was a blow to the head to the QB. Please don't talk about bad calls, because Packer fans know we had bad calls and don't need BF/Vike fans to help them out. Again, not saying that is the sole reason we lost, but it contributed to the loss. It's great that the VP of officiating admitted to a bad non-call, I'm glad he's admitted something like that. I wish he would at least acknowledge more bad calls in the future.
I guess a thing that bothered me was that vike/bf fans said the Rodgers face mask happened after the ball was out of his hands. Well, so were all these so-called "dirty" hits on Favre. I don't think BF/Vike fans realize their hypocritical ways and haven't actually taken that into account. Before someone says the face mask cannot even be compared to BF's brutal hits, there's a reason face mask penalties are called and it's because players can get seriously injured. The face mask on Rodgers is a lot more concrete then the hits on Favre just because people such like angryguy and other BF fans have said that they know what the Saints players intentions are whereas the facemask on Rodgers can be clearly seen. It just boggles my mind that people thought the saints players were sooooo "dirty" that they are willing to try to contact Roger Goodell by phone or stop by his house.
There is not a single place where I said the non/bad calls gave NO the game. I've said it multiple times as to why the viks lost: TO's. All I stated was that the Saints played dirty. I do not attribute non calls to their dirty play as a reason for the Minn loss. I attribute the Viks loss on one thing: the Vikings.
I didn't post the link to show bad calls or to cry about the refs. I posted it to show that there were hits that didn't fall into the clean catagory. IMO the Saints played a bad style thats all. I don't want to see this happen to any QB. The hit on Rodgers should have been called as well. But like this game, was not the reason GB lost either. One hit in a game is bad, but can be forgiven. Multiple hits and thats a sign of dirt. Look what their D coach said this week and you will see what they were out for. I would bet my life that if #4 had a "g" on his helmet, you all would be in agreement with me.
For the record, there was a fine levied today.
$20,000.
kinda makes you go hhhmmmm.
It's one thing to consistantly hit the kidneys of the opponent.To say the Saints played "dirty" is an opinion.
And I can't share that opinion since this is football and I'm not a fan of the Viqueens or anyone who plays for them.
For me to call it "dirty" would be like saying a boxer gave a cheap shot to the face of the boxer he knocked out and won the fight with.