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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 1078870" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>The Stenavich situation is a bit like Bisaccia in my book and an internal problem in Green Bay with what they do with coaches. He replaced Campen in 2019, who was a damn good OL coach for 11 years. Under Stenavich, I would say the Packers OL was good, but nothing I would call outstanding. Still they didn't want to lose him to another team, so they added "run game coordinator" to his title in 2021. Probably came with a pay bump as well. A year later in 2022, again didn't want to lose him, so they bump him up another notch to "offensive coordinator" and give Luke Butkus the OL coaching job. That means this is his 4th year as an OC that doesn't call the plays, but has a function with helping MLF draw up plays. Seeing the similarity with Bisaccia? </p><p></p><p>Something to note, Campen ended up taking a higher rung job with Cleveland, where he was the "associate HC and OL coach". That lasted a year and he went back to only coaching the OL for the Chargers, Texans and Panthers.</p><p></p><p>I guess my point is this. When you have a positional coach that is doing a really good job, why is it necessary to promote them to a job that they might not be cut out for? Or throw in another task, with their original job and now you have diluted their coaching where they once excelled. This isn't just MLF, McCarthy did it too. For all I know every team does it, but it sure doesn't seem like a successful formula in GB. If you offer them more pay to stay in their original position and they won't take it, let them go.</p><p></p><p>As much as I don't want to see MLF calling plays, I don't want that job to go to Stenavich either. Bring in an outside guy, one with a completely new perspective on the team and players.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 1078870, member: 7261"] The Stenavich situation is a bit like Bisaccia in my book and an internal problem in Green Bay with what they do with coaches. He replaced Campen in 2019, who was a damn good OL coach for 11 years. Under Stenavich, I would say the Packers OL was good, but nothing I would call outstanding. Still they didn't want to lose him to another team, so they added "run game coordinator" to his title in 2021. Probably came with a pay bump as well. A year later in 2022, again didn't want to lose him, so they bump him up another notch to "offensive coordinator" and give Luke Butkus the OL coaching job. That means this is his 4th year as an OC that doesn't call the plays, but has a function with helping MLF draw up plays. Seeing the similarity with Bisaccia? Something to note, Campen ended up taking a higher rung job with Cleveland, where he was the "associate HC and OL coach". That lasted a year and he went back to only coaching the OL for the Chargers, Texans and Panthers. I guess my point is this. When you have a positional coach that is doing a really good job, why is it necessary to promote them to a job that they might not be cut out for? Or throw in another task, with their original job and now you have diluted their coaching where they once excelled. This isn't just MLF, McCarthy did it too. For all I know every team does it, but it sure doesn't seem like a successful formula in GB. If you offer them more pay to stay in their original position and they won't take it, let them go. As much as I don't want to see MLF calling plays, I don't want that job to go to Stenavich either. Bring in an outside guy, one with a completely new perspective on the team and players. [/QUOTE]
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