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ROUND FIVE PICK WR DAVID CLOWNEY

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  1. TOPHAT

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    PACK CHOSE WR DAVID CLOWNEY.

    David Clowney
    WR | (6'0", 188, 4.36) | VIRGINIA TECH

    Scouts Grade: 71

    Flags: (D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthy.

    Strengths: Possesses adequate height and the frame to add bulk. Is quick and fast. Shows good initial burst and reaches top-speed in a hurry. Shows enough acceleration to consistently get over the top of DB's in man-to-man coverage as a vertical route runner. Displays soft hands and is reliable receiver. Shows good burst out of his breaks. He's a smooth and fluid athlete. Can shift his weight when getting in and out of cuts without needing to gear down. Lacks size and strength but shows toughness. Not afraid to go over the middle and shows the ability to hold onto the ball when taking a big hit. Gives a good effort as a blocker and works to sustain, despite marginal bulk and strength. Continues to improve with more experience. Shows a good work ethic and is willing to put in the time it takes to make a contribution in the NFL.
    Weaknesses: Is an angular prospect with adequate height but marginal bulk. Lacks strength, which will lead to problems releasing off the line of scrimmage versus press coverage in the NFL. He gets pushed around by bigger defensive backs at times and he is taken out of his routes too easily. Still has room to improve in terms of setting up defenders and finding soft spots in zone coverage. Durability concern is minor; he broke his hand in the spring of 2005 and sat out the Cincinnati game in 2006 after undergoing an appendectomy.
    Overall: Clowney notched 5 catches for 67 yards and one touchdown as a true freshman in 2003. In 2004, he played caught 20 passes for 263 yards (13.2 average), and two touchdowns. Clowney played in all 13 games for the Hokies in 2005, starting the final 12 contests. He led the team with 34 receptions for 619 yards (18.2 average) and scored three touchdowns. Clowney finished the 2006 season with 34 catches for 424 yards (12.5 average) after starting five of the 12 games he played in.
    Clowney is a finesse receiver that needs to get bigger and stronger in order to hold up in the NFL. However, he is an underrated prospect with better skills than his production indicates because he played in a rotation at Virginia Tech and with an erratic quarterback (Sean Glennon) as a senior in 2006. In our opinion, Clowney has the speed, agility, instincts and hands to emerge as a No. 2 or No. 3 receiver in the NFL, which is why he could be a steal late on Day One of the 2007 draft.

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    http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/clowney_david

    David Clowney is a two-sport athlete who excelled in track at Virginia Tech and was the lone senior on a young Hokies' receiving unit. The coaching staff was confident that David would take his place among college football's elite in 2006, but the speedy receiver underwent an emergency appendectomy in September that sidetracked his quest to lead Tech in its march for a national title.
    David was a Class 5A All-State honorable mention as a senior receiver at Atlantic High School, earning four letters on the gridiron. He also competed as a safety, leading the team to an undefeated regular season during his final year. Clowney garnered All-Palm Beach County honors from The Palm Beach Post and Sun-Sentinel, as he totaled 25 catches for 576 yards (23.0 avg) and a county-best ten touchdowns in 2002. He returned three kickoffs for 245 yards (81.7 avg) and a pair of scores and also made one of the season's biggest plays, a 95-yard touchdown catch against Ely in the regional finals that year.
    Clowney added 39 receptions as a junior, coming up with three receptions for 120 yards and two touchdowns vs. Wellington High. He also lettered as a sprinter on the track team. He was a state finalist in the 200 meters and a regional finalist in the 100 meters. David added two more letters as a guard on the basketball squad. He enrolled at Virginia Tech in 2003, seeing action in twelve games as a reserve receiver. David gained 67 yards on five receptions (13.4 avg) and a touchdown. He also recovered a fumble that season.
    Despite starting only one of twelve games in 2004, Clowney ranked fourth on the team with 20 catches for 263 yards (13.2 avg) and two touchdowns. He gained 45 yards on a pair of kickoff returns, but lost 20 yards when he was tackled behind the line of scrimmage on a reverse. He also competed for the school's indoor track team. He posted a season-best 60-meter dash time of 6.87 in the Big East Conference Prelims and finished second in that event at the Virginia Tech Invitational.
    Clowney started twelve games on the right side of the field in 2005, coming up with a team-high 34 receptions for 619 yards (18.2 avg) and three touchdowns. He also returned one kickoff for 30 yards. In outdoor track, David ran the 100- and 200-meter dashes and helped set a school indoor record with a time of 6.94 in the 60 meters at the Atlantic Coast Conference Championships.
    David started five of twelve games he played in during the 2006 campaign. He missed the Cincinnati clash after undergoing an emergency appendectomy on September 21st, but was back on the field nine days later. Clowney led the team with 34 catches for 424 yards (12.5 avg), but did not have any touchdowns. He had two kickoff returns for 44 yards and recorded three tackles (two solos) while recovering his own fumble. In 49 games at Virginia Tech, Clowney started eighteen times. He hauled in 93 passes for 1,373 yards (14.8 avg) and six touchdowns. He gained 119 yards on five kickoff returns (23.8 avg), but was stopped twice for losses totaling minus 25 yards on two reverses. David recorded three tackles (two solos) and recovered two fumbles.
    ANALYSIS
    Positives: Has a lean, angular frame with room to carry more bulk without it affecting his quickness … Has adequate power to fight through the jam and get into position to make the tough catches in a crowd … Not big, but is a slippery route runner whose suddenness causes defenders to struggle in attempts to get their hands on him in attempts to reroute … Blessed with the elusiveness and second gear to escape the initial tackler and separate in the open field … Shows fluid change of direction agility and despite his slight frame, he utilizes his explosion to defeat the jam … Does a nice job of gearing down and dropping his weight when working through a crowd … Has the plant-&-drive agility coming out of his breaks to get under the deep pass … Has the explosion to instantly gobble up the cushion and will win most foot races in the open … Sinks his pads with fluidness and is deceptive with his acceleration, as he looks effortless gliding towards the ball … Stays in control getting in and out of his break point … Has the quick vertical burst and lateral agility to come back for the poorly thrown pass … Shows good awareness for locating the soft spots in the zone, dropping his weight to settle underneath … Can generate that second gear needed to make the over-the-shoulder grabs … Uncovers and finds space when working in the short area and can drive off on the slant due to his quickness … Has large, natural hands and shows proper technique extending to catch outside his frame … Does not hesitate going for the ball in a crowd (but lacks the size and strength to dominate) … Shows a steady stride and burst throughout his route progression … Even with his blazing speed, he knows how to regulate so he does not outrun the deep throws … His hard planting agility lets him separate from the crowd after the catch … Has good pluck-&-snatch ability, doing a good job of making body adjustments to the ball in flight … Can get in and out of his break point, doing a nice job of driving off on slants when working in the short area … Keeps his feet working along the sidelines and will catch with his hands outside his framework … Very elusive runner once he reaches full stride … Has the crisp cutting agility that lets him come out of his breaks without having to throttle down … Adequate cut blocker who uses his hands well vs. second level defenders and despite a lack of bulk, he works hard to sustain, especially when blocking for the running game … Can add some value as an emergency kickoff returner.
    Negatives: Has a slight frame with a small bubble, smooth skin, marginal chest thickness and little room for additional growth … Capable of retaining plays, but needs several reps to do so … Lacks the bulk to face up to defenders when blocking in-line, as he will generally be pushed back or run over … Needs to get a clean release off the line, as his lack of bulk and power can see him get rerouted by the more physical cornerbacks … Can get in and out of his break point, but then starts to coast too often, which lets the defensive back recover … Can outrun most defenders, but once the opponent latches on to him, the battle is over.
    Compares To: Kevin Curtis, Philadelphia … Clowney has few peers when it comes to gaining separation on deep routes. He might not have the bulk to be a physical type working underneath, but when he makes those over-the-shoulder grabs, he is almost certain to beat his man, thanks to his hard planting agility that lets him slide past the opponent to pick up positive yardage.
     
  2. OregonPackFan

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    ROUND FIVE PICK

    another Virginia Tech player
     
  3. Krazygangsta

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    his fast no?
     
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    A 4.36 forty according to nfl draft countdown..he looks pretty good nice pick
     
  5. tkpckfan

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    this is a great pick one of my favorites. this guy is explosive and is extremly fast. ran a great 40 at the combine. didnt get the great stats with tech cuz didnt really get the chance to. tech didnt have a great passin game. but i like the pick
     
  6. TOPHAT

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    WR DAVID CLOWNEY

    YES BUT HEALTH ISSUE THAT PACK CONSIDERED MARGINAL.
     
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    David Clowney Draft Profile


    OVERVIEW:

    David Clowney is a two-sport athlete who excelled in track at Virginia Tech and was the lone senior on a young Hokies' receiving unit. The coaching staff was confident that David would take his place among college football's elite in 2006, but the speedy receiver under-went an emergency appendectomy in September that sidetracked his quest to lead Tech in its march for a national title. David was a Class 5A All-State honorable mention as a senior receiver at Atlantic High School, earning four letters on the gridiron. He also competed as a safety, leading the team to an undefeated regular season during his final year. Clowney garnered All-Palm Beach County honors from The Palm Beach Post Sun-Sentinel, as he totaled 25 catches for 576 yards (23.0 avg) and a county-best ten touchdowns in 2002. He returned three kickoffs for 245 yards (81.7 avg) and a pair of scores and also made one of the season's biggest plays, a 95-yard touchdown catch against Ely in the regional finals that year. Clowney added 39 receptions as a junior, coming up with three receptions for 120 yards and two touchdowns vs. Wellington High. He also lettered as a sprinter on the track team. He was a state finalist in the 200 meters and a regional finalist in the 100 meters. David added two more letters as a guard on the basketball squad. He enrolled at Virginia Tech in 2003, seeing action in twelve games as a reserve receiver. David gained 67 yards on five receptions (13.4 avg) and a touchdown. He also recovered a fumble that season. Despite starting only one of twelve games in 2004, Clowney ranked fourth on the team with 20 catches for 263 yards (13.2 avg) and two touchdowns. He gained 45 yards on a pair of kickoff returns, but lost 20 yards when he was tackled behind the line of scrimmage on a reverse. He also competed for the school's indoor track team. He posted a season-best 60-meter dash time of 6.87 in the Big East Conference Prelims and finished second in that event at the Virginia Tech Invitational. Clowney started twelve games on the right side of the field in 2005, coming up with a team-high 34 receptions for 619 yards (18.2 avg) and three touchdowns. He also returned one kickoff for 30 yards. In outdoor track, David ran the 100- and 200-meter dashes and helped set a school indoor record with a time of 6.94 in the 60 meters at the Atlantic Coast Conference Championships. David started five of twelve games he played in during the 2006 campaign. He missed the Cincinnati clash after undergoing an emergency appendectomy on September 21st, but was back on the field nine days later. Clowney led the team with 34 catches for 424 yards (12.5 avg), but did not have any touchdowns. He had two kickoff returns for 44 yards and recorded three tackles (2 solos) while recovering his own fumble. In 49 games at Virginia Tech, Clowney started eighteen times. He hauled in 93 passes for 1,373 yards (14.8 avg) and six touchdowns. He gained 119 yards on five kickoff returns (23.8 avg), but was stopped twice for losses totaling minus 25 yards on two reverses. David recorded three tackles (2 solos) and recovered two fumbles.

    ANALYSIS:

    Positives: Has a lean, angular frame with room to carry more bulk without it affecting his quicknessHas adequate power to fight through the jam and get into position to make the tough catches in a crowdNot big, but is a slippery route runner whose suddenness causes defenders to struggle in attempts to get their hands on him in attempts to rerouteBlessed with the elusiveness and second gear to escape the initial tackler and separate in the open fieldShows fluid change of direction agility and despite his slight frame, he utilizes his explosion to defeat the jamDoes a nice job of gearing down and dropping his weight when working through a crowdHas the plant-&-drive agility coming out of his breaks to get under the deep passHas the explosion to instantly gobble up the cushion and will win most foot races in the openSinks his pads with fluidness and is deceptive with his acceleration, as he looks effortless gliding towards the ballStays in control getting in and out of his break pointHas the quick vertical burst and lateral agility to come back for the poorly thrown passShows good awareness for locating the soft spots in the zone, dropping his weight to settle underneath. Can generate that second gear needed to make the over-the-shoulder grabsUncovers and finds space when working in the short area and can drive off on the slant due to his quicknessHas large, natural hands and shows proper technique extending to catch outside his frameDoes not hesitate going for the ball in a crowd (but lacks the size and strength to dominate) Shows a steady stride and burst throughout his route progressionEven with his blazing speed, he knows how to regulate so he does not outrun the deep throwsHis hard planting agility lets him separate from the crowd after the catchHas good pluck-&-snatch ability, doing a good job of making body adjustments to the ball in flightCan get in and out of his break point, doing a nice job of driving off on slants when working in the short areaKeeps his feet working along the sidelines and will catch with his hands outside his frameworkVery elusive runner once he reaches full strideHas the crisp cutting agility that lets him come out of his breaks without having to throttle downAdequate cut blocker who uses his hands well vs. second level defenders and despite a lack of bulk, he works hard to sustain, especially when blocking for the running gameCan add some value as an emergency kickoff returner. Negatives: Has a slight frame with a small bubble, smooth skin, marginal chest thickness and little room for additional growthCapable of retaining plays, but needs several reps to do soLacks the bulk to face up to defenders when blocking in-line, as he will generally be pushed back or run overNeeds to get a clean release off the line, as his lack of bulk and power can see him get rerouted by the more physical cornerbacksCan get in and out of his break point, but then starts to coast too often, which lets the defensive back recoverCan outrun most defenders, but once the opponent latches on to him, the battle is over. Compares To: KEVIN CURTIS-PhiladelphiaClowney has few peers when it comes to gaining separation on deep routes. He might not have the bulk to be a physical type working underneath, but when he makes those over-the-shoulder grabs, he is almost certain to beat his man, thanks to his hard planting agility that lets him slide past the opponent to pick up positive yardage.

    INJURY REPORT:

    2005-Suffered a broken bone in his right hand during spring drills (3/15), but did not misds any practice time. 2006-Sat out the Cincinnati game after undergoing an appendectomy on September 21st, but was back on the field nine days later (9/30) to start vs. Georgia Tech. He left that game with 1:40 remaining when he was shaken up after receiving a late hit on an incomplete pass.

    CAREER NOTES:

    Clowney caught 93 of the 131 passes targeted to himHis 93 receptions rank seventh on the school's career-record list behind Ernest Wilford (126, 2000-03), Antonio Freeman (121, 1991-94), Ricky Scales (113, 1972-74), Andr Davis (103, 1998-01), Mike Giacolone (103, 1979-82) and Myron Richardson (100, 1986-89)David is only the 18th player in school annals to amass over 1,000 yards receiving (1,250) in a career55 of his catches resulted in first downs, as he converted 17-of-27 third-down plays and one other on fourth down Seventeen of his receptions were good for 20 yards or longerHe came up with key catches that set up twenty touchdown drives and five others that ended in field goals.

    AGILITY TESTS

    Campus: 4.29 in the 40-yard dash (indoor rubber track)4.35 in the 40-yard dash (outside grass field)275-pound bench press450-pound squat226-pound power clean6.69 three-cone drill36-inch vertical jump31 1/8-inch arm length9 5/8-inch hands18/20 Wonderlic score. Combine: 4.4 in the 40-yard dash1.57 10-yard dash2.54 20-yard dash4.15 20-yard shuttle11.75 60-yard shuttle7.0 three-cone drill32.5-inch vertical jump10'3" broad jump.

    PERSONAL:

    Real Estate/Residential Property Management majorSon of Maria and Tracy BeanBorn David Cortez Clowney, IV, on 7/07/85 in Long Island, New YorkResides in Delray Beach, Florida.

    HIGH SCHOOL:

    Attended Atlantic (Delray Beach, Fla.) High, playing football for head coaches Keith Tillman, followed by Chris BeanClass 5A All-State honorable mention as a senior Earned four letters on the gridiron as a receiver and safetyLed the team to an undefeated regular season during his final yearGarnered All-Palm Beach County honors from The Palm Beach Post Sun-Sentinel, as he totaled 25 catches for 576 yards (23.0 avg) and a county-best ten touchdowns in 2002Returned three kickoffs for 245 yards (81.7 avg) and a pair of scores and also made one of the season's biggest plays, a 95-yard touchdown catch against Ely in the regional finals that yearAdded 39 receptions as a junior, coming up with three receptions for 120 yards and two touchdowns vs. Wellington HighAlso lettered as a sprinter on the track teamState finalist in the 200 meters and a regional finalist in the 100 metersAdded two more letters as a guard on the basketball squad.

    Courtesy NFLDraftScout.com
     
  8. Arles

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    good pick. Should be in the mix for the #3 spot. If he was a steal late in day 1, you have to think he's a good pick in round 5
     
  9. OregonPackFan

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    I guess this covers our need for a returner and a fast WR.
     
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    He may have the speed, but he now has to show he can put that speed to good use and actually go and get some deep bombs from Brett.

    Expecting him to do that, and him actually doing it are 2 different matters.

    I do like the pick though, clearly what the doctor ordered.
     
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    There has been many times Favre overthrew his receiver...have those days ended???
     
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    A "D" for durability???

    Broke his hand in 2005 and missed NO practice.

    Missed 1 game last year for an appendectomy (Which is NOT a recurring injury).
     
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    This is a great pick for the Packers, maybe the best player they've chosen yet.
     
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    good pick
     
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    Yeah, knocking a guy for an appendectomy is like knocking someone for having mono. It's not something that will impact his future health.
     
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    From what I've seen he is good at getting to where the ball is supposed to be.
     
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    I AGREE. WE GOT LUCKY, BETTER THAN GOOD SOMETIMES, WITH THIS LATE RD STEAL. NOW IF TT GETS PATRICK OR ANOTHER STEAL.
     
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    If anyone has read my posts about this draft, I've been overy much on the critical side, but I do like this pick. I don't understand the injury thing either. He's my fav pick of our draft so far.
     
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    They think Jones, in short yardage game, can catch anything in a crowd with his moderate speed. I agree, we could have had Clowney and Patrick before Jones, late round pick, as an option.
     
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    Can this guy return kicks? I don't know anything about him.
     
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    PLEASE READ MY TWO PROFILES WITH HIGHLIGHTS. I WILL CHECK.
     
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    HERE IS AN ANSWER: "our WR coach is just saying he's quick enough and he'll be looked at. The scout who recommended him said he was not given that role at VT, but he played on ST as a gunner his senior year at his own request."
     

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