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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 722588" data-attributes="member: 6578">From all I've read and seen this dude for a 4th rounder should be a week in and week out workhorse that will never take plays off and will keep head clean.Some have said Hawk or Poppinga type ceiling....if so I'll take it an run with it. In likelihood I think his ceiling is higher than Pop but if that is all we get than still solid for a 4th for sure.Kampman was this type...Lowry last year is very similar in effort and work mentality... I have realistic apprehension but also realistically optimistic too for this pick.</blockquote>

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