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<blockquote data-quote="doughsellz" data-source="post: 238991" data-attributes="member: 1158"><p>57-39</p><p></p><p>That was the "ruin" Mike Sherman left upon the Packers. Even with the 4-12 debacle in '05 factored in, perpetrated by the new GM with aspirations of finding his own guy to coach.</p><p></p><p>Even the 3 seasons he spent as Coach-GM rank higher than TT's first 3 seasons- in the category that counts most - wins. And he was doing MM's job in addition to TT's during that span.</p><p></p><p>'02-'04 32-16</p><p></p><p>'05-'07 25-23</p><p></p><p>The biggest drop-off in wins from one season to the next in Packers history - that is the legacy of the '08 Packers, presided over by TT.</p><p></p><p>Say what you will about the abilities of Mike Sherman. He found arguably the two best defensive lineman the Packers currently employ (Kampman, Jenkins) the best LB (Barnett) & the best CB (Harris).</p><p></p><p>The area where we all can agree that Sherman was the worst as Packers' GM was with the $$$. He was careless, borderline reckless.</p><p></p><p>In his defense, he was under the impression (because every pundit in the state of WI declared it every season) that GB was only a player or two away from another SB appearance.</p><p></p><p>We all were convinced that with the NAME under center we were going to compete for NFL supremacy every year.</p><p></p><p>That is why Sherman traded up a lot, attmepting to find that certain player that was going to push the team over the top.</p><p></p><p>I pose this question to you - if TT is so much better than Sherman, why aren't the victories piling up?</p><p></p><p>To you, LongTimeFan -</p><p></p><p>TT does favor his own acqusitions. The proof is out there. You choose to ignore it.</p><p></p><p>Mike McCarthy is the perfect example. Corey Williams is too. So is Rodgers. So is Marquand Manuel, declared "the QB of the D" in '06 by TT, instead of Mark Roman who had a sub-par '05 compared to '04 but was more experienced than Manuel.</p><p></p><p>That Sherman, Williams & Roman didn't excel with their new teams is irrelevant to the Packers. They were great fits in GB. TT didn't care, he just wanted his own guys. Period.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doughsellz, post: 238991, member: 1158"] 57-39 That was the "ruin" Mike Sherman left upon the Packers. Even with the 4-12 debacle in '05 factored in, perpetrated by the new GM with aspirations of finding his own guy to coach. Even the 3 seasons he spent as Coach-GM rank higher than TT's first 3 seasons- in the category that counts most - wins. And he was doing MM's job in addition to TT's during that span. '02-'04 32-16 '05-'07 25-23 The biggest drop-off in wins from one season to the next in Packers history - that is the legacy of the '08 Packers, presided over by TT. Say what you will about the abilities of Mike Sherman. He found arguably the two best defensive lineman the Packers currently employ (Kampman, Jenkins) the best LB (Barnett) & the best CB (Harris). The area where we all can agree that Sherman was the worst as Packers' GM was with the $$$. He was careless, borderline reckless. In his defense, he was under the impression (because every pundit in the state of WI declared it every season) that GB was only a player or two away from another SB appearance. We all were convinced that with the NAME under center we were going to compete for NFL supremacy every year. That is why Sherman traded up a lot, attmepting to find that certain player that was going to push the team over the top. I pose this question to you - if TT is so much better than Sherman, why aren't the victories piling up? To you, LongTimeFan - TT does favor his own acqusitions. The proof is out there. You choose to ignore it. Mike McCarthy is the perfect example. Corey Williams is too. So is Rodgers. So is Marquand Manuel, declared "the QB of the D" in '06 by TT, instead of Mark Roman who had a sub-par '05 compared to '04 but was more experienced than Manuel. That Sherman, Williams & Roman didn't excel with their new teams is irrelevant to the Packers. They were great fits in GB. TT didn't care, he just wanted his own guys. Period. [/QUOTE]
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