Rich Bisaccia is stepping down. The Bad man is gone!

[Zartan]

Special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia stepping down after four seasons with Packers

Maybe the next ST Cord will be the one to bring us out of the basement.

 

[Team Ronny]

Blows my mind how bad this team has struggled to find a competent special teams coach, offensive coordinator, and until recently defensive coordinator!

 

[AmishMafia]

Stepping down? hmmmm . . . Sure.

 

[swhitset]

seems a bit suspect

 

[tynimiller]

I suspect they discussed him losing one role or the other OR stepping down...

 

[swhitset]

This may just be completely wrong speculation…. but… Rich had a good reputation as a special teams coordinator prior to coming to the Packers…. and the Packers special teams did in fact improve from the absolute pile of crap they were before him. However, they never really became a good unit despite his reputation. What if his decision to leave is actually his choice due to a conflict with Lefluer. Other teams actually use more starters on Their special teams. What if There has been tension in the background because Bisaccia could not convince Lefleur to give him the players he needed to truly make special teams a unit that he could be proud of…? like I said… this might all be nonsense but?.

 

[shockerx]

This may just be completely wrong speculation…. but… Rich had a good reputation as a special teams coordinator prior to coming to the Packers…. and the Packers special teams did in fact improve from the absolute pile of crap they were before him. However, they never really became a good unit despite his reputation. What if his decision to leave is actually his choice due to a conflict with Lefluer. Other teams actually use more starters on Their special teams. What if There has been tension in the background because Bisaccia could not convince Lefleur to give him the players he needed to truly make special teams a unit that he could be proud of…? like I said… this might all be nonsense but?.

so your saying there is a chance?

 

[tynimiller]

This may just be completely wrong speculation…. but… Rich had a good reputation as a special teams coordinator prior to coming to the Packers…. and the Packers special teams did in fact improve from the absolute pile of crap they were before him. However, they never really became a good unit despite his reputation. What if his decision to leave is actually his choice due to a conflict with Lefluer. Other teams actually use more starters on Their special teams. What if There has been tension in the background because Bisaccia could not convince Lefleur to give him the players he needed to truly make special teams a unit that he could be proud of…? like I said… this might all be nonsense but?.

Did you check ST snapcounts of our main starters? I think some might be shocked especially in recent years how many snaps some of our starters are actually playing...

Xavier McKinney the last two years played more ST snaps than he did his entire career at NYG...honestly in 2024 he almost did that just that year!
Evan Williams is on coverage teams like X
Bullard same
Cooper on about 25%
Quay averages around 17%
Rasheed Walker same
McDuffie in a year where he again saw over 500 normal defensive snaps was on over 300 ST



Kraft (relative to injury), Nixon and LVN was really the only starter that saw his ST usage drop significantly

 

[AmishMafia]

Did you check ST snapcounts of our main starters? I think some might be shocked especially in recent years how many snaps some of our starters are actually playing...

Xavier McKinney the last two years played more ST snaps than he did his entire career at NYG...honestly in 2024 he almost did that just that year!
Evan Williams is on coverage teams like X
Bullard same
Cooper on about 25%
Quay averages around 17%
Rasheed Walker same
McDuffie in a year where he again saw over 500 normal defensive snaps was on over 300 ST



Kraft (relative to injury), Nixon and LVN was really the only starter that saw his ST usage drop significantly

Well that kind of takes away a lot of the excuses. The only remaining excuse is ST practice time.

And for the record, I dont think it was entirely Rich's fault.

 

[rmontro]

Say goodbye to the bad guy.

 

[gopkrs]

We did improve on coverage imho. There are still other things that are problems

 

[GBkrzygrl]

Stepping down? hmmmm . . . Sure.

My thought was, they wanted to let him go and this is to save face. JMO

 

[El Guapo]

My thought was, they wanted to let him go and this is to save face. JMO

Agreed. This was a decision wanted by the team (or Policy) and finally took place.

 

[El Guapo]

This may just be completely wrong speculation…. but… Rich had a good reputation as a special teams coordinator prior to coming to the Packers…. and the Packers special teams did in fact improve from the absolute pile of crap they were before him. However, they never really became a good unit despite his reputation. What if his decision to leave is actually his choice due to a conflict with Lefluer. Other teams actually use more starters on Their special teams. What if There has been tension in the background because Bisaccia could not convince Lefleur to give him the players he needed to truly make special teams a unit that he could be proud of…? like I said… this might all be nonsense but?.

I rarely saw questionable decision out of Bissacia. Usually it was players not making plays. I really think that the Packers are going to struggle to field good ST until they have the right coach and make special teams a priority from a roster perspective. We need to cut bait with lost causes quicker and churn the bottom of the roster to find special teamers.

Did you check ST snapcounts of our main starters? I think some might be shocked especially in recent years how many snaps some of our starters are actually playing...

Xavier McKinney the last two years played more ST snaps than he did his entire career at NYG...honestly in 2024 he almost did that just that year!
Evan Williams is on coverage teams like X
Bullard same
Cooper on about 25%
Quay averages around 17%
Rasheed Walker same
McDuffie in a year where he again saw over 500 normal defensive snaps was on over 300 ST



Kraft (relative to injury), Nixon and LVN was really the only starter that saw his ST usage drop significantly

Using starters on ST is no panacea for fixing problems. It's a terrible bandaid. You are risking starters, expending more of their energy which could be focused on their main job, and you are having them doing something that they haven't practiced much or been asked to do in years.


Overall, I'm okay with Bissacia leaving because we need to do something. However, anyone (not speaking to you) that believes that the coaching has been the problem for Green Bay is fooling themselves. We brought in "the best" coach and things improved somewhat. Maybe he wasn't the right coach but that tells me there is an organizational problem that needs to also be addressed.

 

[OldSchool101]

My thought was, they wanted to let him go and this is to save face. JMO

Yep. Rich is a good guy. GB isn’t trying to negate an entire career by slapping him in the face. Sometimes just a change can spark improvement. Aside from Punter, if you look at Teams under Rich we’ve steadily remained in the bottom 10. Well ok Nixon was a bright spot a couple years ago also and he was 100% Rich’s guy.

Wish Rich the very best.

 

[tynimiller]

I rarely saw questionable decision out of Bissacia. Usually it was players not making plays. I really think that the Packers are going to struggle to field good ST until they have the right coach and make special teams a priority from a roster perspective. We need to cut bait with lost causes quicker and churn the bottom of the roster to find special teamers.


Using starters on ST is no panacea for fixing problems. It's a terrible bandaid. You are risking starters, expending more of their energy which could be focused on their main job, and you are having them doing something that they haven't practiced much or been asked to do in years.


Overall, I'm okay with Bissacia leaving because we need to do something. However, anyone (not speaking to you) that believes that the coaching has been the problem for Green Bay is fooling themselves. We brought in "the best" coach and things improved somewhat. Maybe he wasn't the right coach but that tells me there is an organizational problem that needs to also be addressed.

For sure! I was merely placing that information due to the claim that we dissallow or don't use starters on it. I wasn't arguing for it or against it.

 

[OldSchool101]

One thing about that occasional Coordinator coming in. They quite often bring in other coaches and players that are peak performers. Due to relational ties. We saw this with Nixon and several others. New Coaching can bring in some good talent. Also Rich drug Byron Storer over from LV. So I guess I’ll add our Assistant Teams Coach left. Byron Storer is now the Coordinator in Cleveland. This was the ideal time to make a clean sweep as one of our lead Special Teams Coaching tenants already vacated.

Also quite often a 1st year Coordinator often DOES get some resources. As the FO wants to improve and give them a boost. Plus let’s be frank, this will be a reflection on the FO and they’ll want to look good. You might see a FA add.. ..RD7 specialist etc. etc. added. Just to kinda give the new Teams Coordinator support.

I’ll miss Rich he’s a good dude. But I like this move. It’s time

 

[rmontro]

Seems strange that there has been so much complaining about how this guy has to be fired, but now that he's stepped down, most people seem to be saying "Hey, it wasn't his fault".

 

[OldSchool101]

Seems strange that there has been so much complaining about how this guy has to be fired, but now that he's stepped down, most people seem to be saying "Hey, it wasn't his fault".

True. I mean if you’re the QB you get all the accolades and take all the blame. Coordinating is similar. It’s kinda hard not to look to the Top because it all runs downhill from there.

I don’t think anybody would suggest Our Coordinator was winning games for us.

 

[OldSchool101]

I like our Punter.

I think Savion looked surprisingly good on KR (at least in small sample).

McManus might’ve just had that Crosby “off year”. His career suggests that. His Quad injury didn’t help him. Just my take but I’m 75% sure McManus bounces back some in 2026. Like Top 8-12 area accuracy.

I just want to get back to calling him “McNamath”. That’s really all I care about! If he has another bad year I’ll nickname him something really bad! McMAnus gives me LOTS of derogatory ideas.

Go get us a PR who can maybe act as a CB6 depth piece.

 

[tynimiller]

Seems strange that there has been so much complaining about how this guy has to be fired, but now that he's stepped down, most people seem to be saying "Hey, it wasn't his fault".

I think you're misinterpreting statements, I have not seen anyone state that this shouldn't have happened or expressed sadness from a performance stance only from the character or respect aspect he apparently had of many...or merley pointing out failur of teams likely is not solely his fault.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think you're misinterpreting statements, I have not seen anyone state that this shouldn't have happened or expressed sadness from a performance stance only from the character or respect aspect he apparently had of many...or merley pointing out failur of teams likely is not solely his fault.

Well it’s not like Rich is missing an XPA or a 40 yard FGA or fumbling the Opening Kickoff. Lol

 

[pacmaniac]

Stepping down? hmmmm . . . Sure.

If the Packers forced him out, why would they do it one and a half weeks after the Super Bowl. Seems really late with all the other teams' coaching staffs pretty much finalized.

 

[Magooch]

I'd be wondering if it wasn't so much "forced out" but "you're going to take a demotion if you're going to stay here" and Rich didn't care to mess with that

Of course there's also been reports that he contemplated stepping down last year. So maybe he really did just decide to leave. But by the same measure if you're going to take a year off (or have something else lined up) why wait to step down until now, too?

 

[swhitset]

Did you check ST snapcounts of our main starters? I think some might be shocked especially in recent years how many snaps some of our starters are actually playing...

Xavier McKinney the last two years played more ST snaps than he did his entire career at NYG...honestly in 2024 he almost did that just that year!
Evan Williams is on coverage teams like X
Bullard same
Cooper on about 25%
Quay averages around 17%
Rasheed Walker same
McDuffie in a year where he again saw over 500 normal defensive snaps was on over 300 ST



Kraft (relative to injury), Nixon and LVN was really the only starter that saw his ST usage drop significantly

I’m not questioning your numbers, because, you’re right…. I have not researched it. I actually took some of that opinion from Brian Bulaga and Mark Tauscher after listening to their podcast where they specifically claimed that the Packers use fewer starters on special teams than a lot of other teams….