celticraider
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I believe Moss still is a great player. When he first came to Oakland, he was excited to be here and was doing some serious damage until he got cheap shotted against SD (which of course drew no flag) and he gutted out the rest of the season for us while he was severely hobbled. His first year in Oakland he topped 1,000 yards and scored 8 tds and he was a cripple for more than half the season. He was routinely making one big play a game on a not so great offense until the injury vs SD.
The next season, when we hired Shell (huge mistake) he didn't mesh well with Randy or anyone else for that matter. He benched Jerry Porter right from the get go, then traded his best friend on the team who Moss is high on (Doug Gabriel) and started a journeyman Alvis Whitted. Moss came into camp excited and ready to tear **** up, but after these things happened he made his things are "fishy" speech. From then on it was running half speed routes, and giving no effort to fight for the ball. His lack of production directly correlates to his lack of effort.
I believe the organization is as much at fault as Randy for him quitting last year. Pains me to say that, but I wouldn't want to work in that ***** environment either the way Shell basically took a team that has lots of talent on paper, benches some, alienates others, and institutes some archaic offense expecting everyone to be happy. I do hold him accountable for not being a professional.
I've told everyone here all along Al won't part with Randy unless he feels he is getting value, and recent reports seem to back that up. Al Davis won't ever trade a talent like Randy Moss unless he feels he is getting value in return.
Adam Schefter is reporting we aren't shopping Moss, only fielding calls for him and we expect high compensation if we are to trade him. I believe this knowing Al, and also knowing Moss and Kiffin have had great phone conversations and Moss is excited to play in Oakland again.
here is a link to the article on nfl.com
Sorry for writing a book about this, but I have a lot of insight into the situation being a long time Raider fan and am able to fairly answer some of the questions you guys have had such as what we will probably want to receive back, and if he really quit on the team.
Overall, I feel if we do trade him, I wouldn't want it to be to the Pack, who I root for vehemently against any team but Oakland since you signed CWood. I'm not sure this team is a Randy Moss away from a SB, and Al will most likely want a 1st round draft pick for Randy. With Bretts age, and an injection of talent needed at other positions, I would rather see the Pack build through the draft than spend a 1st on a guy who might quit on you if things start to slide.
I have to admit, I'm also starting to like more players on your team, and could see me liking the Pack even after he is gone. Here is to a good draft, and a good season
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The next season, when we hired Shell (huge mistake) he didn't mesh well with Randy or anyone else for that matter. He benched Jerry Porter right from the get go, then traded his best friend on the team who Moss is high on (Doug Gabriel) and started a journeyman Alvis Whitted. Moss came into camp excited and ready to tear **** up, but after these things happened he made his things are "fishy" speech. From then on it was running half speed routes, and giving no effort to fight for the ball. His lack of production directly correlates to his lack of effort.
I believe the organization is as much at fault as Randy for him quitting last year. Pains me to say that, but I wouldn't want to work in that ***** environment either the way Shell basically took a team that has lots of talent on paper, benches some, alienates others, and institutes some archaic offense expecting everyone to be happy. I do hold him accountable for not being a professional.
I've told everyone here all along Al won't part with Randy unless he feels he is getting value, and recent reports seem to back that up. Al Davis won't ever trade a talent like Randy Moss unless he feels he is getting value in return.
Adam Schefter is reporting we aren't shopping Moss, only fielding calls for him and we expect high compensation if we are to trade him. I believe this knowing Al, and also knowing Moss and Kiffin have had great phone conversations and Moss is excited to play in Oakland again.
here is a link to the article on nfl.com
Sorry for writing a book about this, but I have a lot of insight into the situation being a long time Raider fan and am able to fairly answer some of the questions you guys have had such as what we will probably want to receive back, and if he really quit on the team.
Overall, I feel if we do trade him, I wouldn't want it to be to the Pack, who I root for vehemently against any team but Oakland since you signed CWood. I'm not sure this team is a Randy Moss away from a SB, and Al will most likely want a 1st round draft pick for Randy. With Bretts age, and an injection of talent needed at other positions, I would rather see the Pack build through the draft than spend a 1st on a guy who might quit on you if things start to slide.
I have to admit, I'm also starting to like more players on your team, and could see me liking the Pack even after he is gone. Here is to a good draft, and a good season
:beer: