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Record Rodgers is most likely to beat

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. MackemPacker

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    Alternative way of looking at it is Brees put their D on the field a lot by throwing all them INTs.
     
  2. 13 Times Champs

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    Time of possession by the New Orleans offense was 28.51 per game, just 1 minute less than Green Bays.
     
  3. JBlood

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    At present Rogers owns the following records:
    highest career passer rating 104.9
    highest season passer rating 122.5
    highest career completion percentage 65.7
    most TD passes/game started (average) 2.19
    best completion/interception ratio, career 38.09
    best passing yards/interception ratio, career 470.9
    lowest percentage passes intercepted, career 1.73

    all he has to do is continue his current level of play imo. And the Championships will follow.
     
  4. HardRightEdge

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    Why don't you look it up? It's easy to do.
     
  5. HardRightEdge

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    You have zero appreciation for the art of the game and the intangibles. You asked so I'll answer: your standards are distorted and lack nuance.
     
  6. ivo610

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    I love when people who don't know me tell me about me.
     
  7. HardRightEdge

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    Not quite. Int % is one of 4 stats that go into the rating. It's important, but hardly guarantees a high passer rating.

    For instance, Neil O'Donnell is third all-time in Int %, 0.4% behind Rodgers. That's a difference of 2 ints over a 500 pass season. At the same time O'Donnell is 44th. all time in passer rating at 81.8, a mediocre or worse career number in today's game. The top 20 all time in the Int % department has a number of less than impressive names:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm

    I included Int % along with Passer Rating because in my view protecting the ball is Job #1. But it certainly is not the only job and is not sufficient for winning.
     
  8. HardRightEdge

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    Joe Namath might say the same.;)

    Would you be more comfortable if I used the the third person?

    I could have mentioned "context" along with nuance and intangibles, but I forgot. You've got that going for you.
     
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  9. weeds

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    Nope HRE, I refuse to minimize or "qualify" championships as the yardstick. For instance, I'll never differentiate between the dog and pony shows that we call Super Bowl Championships and Championships that came prior to the marketing term "Super Bowl" being coined. That's a tool used by fans of expansion franchises to elevate their newbie teams to a level equal to the Bears, Cardinals, Giants and Packers. Like it's the Green Bay Packers' fault that their expansion franchise didn't exist prior to 1950. That would be like telling me that the World Champion Packers 1965 team was a lesser team than the 1966 model simply because they didn't annihilate some 3rd rate AFL team in an exhibition after the regular season.

    Your points are good points. Well thought out and presented and all. Just sayin'. We're an ocean apart on this one. ;) 5 in 7 is still the gold standard in my little world.
     
  10. HardRightEdge

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    Well, if you don't like Super Bowls so much, I would guess those first 2 don't count in your book, in which case Starr won his 5 championships over just 7 playoff games...instead of 15 - 20 in today's game. It's a simple fact that the more quality teams you play, the more likely something can go wrong.

    I think you have to count those first two SBs, though, not because the Packers won but because they did not lose. All the pressure was on the Packers...losing either would have been an embarrassment of the first order while tarnishing the legacy.

    Nobody said 5 in 7 years isn't the gold standard. However, it is more difficult now to try to achieve it for the reasons cited.

    I view the '62 team as the greatest Packer team of the Lombardi era...first in the league in points scored, points surrendered and giveaway / takeaway. The guys were in their primes.
     
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  11. PFanCan

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    I knew you would love that. You always love those kind of things.
     
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  12. weeds

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    Your point is taken, however the current format didn't exist because perhaps 20 teams didn't exist way back when. I like Championships if they're called Super Bowls or Super Salads ... makes no never mind to me - "Super Bowl" is a marketing term, nothing more and nothing less. This has all the makings of a circular argument...sure it's tougher to win Championships today. The available talent is dispersed between too many teams.
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    I would agree that the '62 Packers team was the greatest team of the Lombardi era. You know it and I know it ... my point is that most fans of the ESPN generation would denigrate that team as being pre-historic and therefore not relevant because there isn't a "Super Bowl Champion" tag in front of 1962 Green Bay Packers.
     

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