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    Params: post, 469812, a:1:{i:0;s:484:"Run the ball. When we run the ball, we win. Even if it is a bit ugly running, we still win. It opens up the pass game. So work on running the ball with our "C grade" backs all week. Get the blocking perfected. (Blocking for Rodgers too) Our pass game is plenty good to kick in when the opportunity arises. We got swamped in the first half of the Seattle game cause we barely ran the ball! Had we gone to the run early, even the counterfeit refs could not have stole that game from us.";}, 1458829234, 1462245549
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    Params: post, 469825, a:1:{i:0;s:227:"Rams have 2 excellent speed rushers on the outside and that's where the Packers have been poor on pass defense. Bulaga and Newhouse will have to step up and MM will have to plan for that. Running effectively would help a lot.";}, 1458829234, 1462245549
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    Params: post, 469861, a:3:{i:0;s:932:"The recipe for limiting us was posted last season in KC.. since then, MM has been slow to adjust from his pass happy ways and we have struggled some. To counter that is not a mystery, at least to the general Cheesehead nation. Mix in the run just enough to: * Pause the pass rush, flipping the advantage back to the Oline. * Make the LBers stay in the box long enough to diagnosis the play and thus giving the middle of the field a bit more operating space for the pass routes. * Have the safeties at least peeking in the backfield for the run, and at times last week cheating up to support the run. That will open the deep overs up a bit, making the safeties almost have to play flawless (angles and reads) ball. * And probably the most important reason.. at bare minimum keeping the time of possession in check, thus keeping our defense on the sidelines, staying fresh and ready to provide stops when they need to. ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:1:"b";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:3:"[B]";i:1;s:4:"[/B]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:188:"We should not be a run first team.. we should however be a somewhat balanced offense that dictates to the defense.. not the other way around by allowing them to tee off with the Pass rush.";}}i:2;s:181:" This is the fundamentals of football.. if you can stick that formula, it will allow for a greater margin of error in other areas and thus a more consistent winning football team.";}, 1458829234, 1462245549
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