Rebuild in 2026

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Not sure what you are stating/asking here.

Given the Packers current WR room, I think not paying Doubs what the Patriots paid him, was a smart move by Gute. Thus, I view it as a plus (end result is good for the Packers).

But stating that Doubs is a negative in the loss category, doesn't mean someone feels we ought to have spent the money...those things do not have to coexist.
 

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The title of this thread is Rebuild in 2026. Poker as well as most including me do not believe it is a rebuild. With that said IMO losing Romeo Doubs is not a plus.
 

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No question in my mind that Golden needs to get his chance in Year 2 and Doubs was, in at least part, preventing that. Reed is established in the Slot but talented enough to play Z. That gives GB lots of flexibility because they also have Wicks. Obviously Watson is going to see the field regularly. Plus there’s a potential opportunity to get Skyye involved.

Too much position overlap with Doubs or he’s holding back other risers. GB was really almost in a way forced to decision Doubs or decision 3 other players simultaneously. A Doubs deal and GB instantly becomes Cap heavy at WR because I think we all agree that Watson will likely get an offer very soon. So a big Doubs contract and we would’ve just effectively announced Reed and Wicks are being put out to pasture before their final season starts. Not very wise.

Imo, It’s became a “financial game of pickle” with Doubs and looking for the least harmful way out. Especially considering letting Doubs go netted us a nice RD4 selection and keeps our Cap$ wide open. It was highly prudent to NOT be making grand financial declarations that impacted multiple players at once and doing it so prematurely.
I have a hard time envisioning Sky helping out the passing game. He has not been in loaded WR rooms and averages less than 1 catch per game in his career. Now on the other hand I am cautiously optimistic that Golden and Wicks are ready to step it up. It seems to me that Reed needs to be schemed open. IMO that is why he seems to disappear at times. IMO the key to the GB WR room is Watson and his availability, which has been debated ad nauseam in the other thread.
 

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I wouldn't say we're in a "rebuild" by any means, but I do think (I've said this before) that while the team wouldn't admit as much....it kind of feels like they are already looking on to 2027 for a bigger "push"
 

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But stating that Doubs is a negative in the loss category, doesn't mean someone feels we ought to have spent the money...those things do not have to coexist.

I would disagree.

In order to have kept Doubs, the Packers most likely would have had to offer him a similar contract to what he got with the Patriots. That also assumes Doubs wanted to stay in GB and the Packers wanted him to, something we don't know.

So while I would agree that not having Doubs on the roster is a loss, I believe with the WR depth that the Packers have, the capital they saved by not resigning him and the 2027 comp pick we will get, losing him is a net gain.
 

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We've gone from looking like Super Bowl champs the first two games last year, and #1 on a lot of people's power rankings to talking about a rebuild now. Pretty sad. Although I don't think we're rebuilding. Spinning our wheels maybe.

I'm trying to see a late return by Parsons as an advantage, hopefully. A late season boost to the defense, instead of him being worn down and/or injured going into the playoffs. If we make the playoffs. If we don't, that would be one more year of decreasing performance under MLF.
 

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I'm trying to see a late return by Parsons as an advantage, hopefully. A late season boost to the defense, instead of him being worn down and/or injured going into the playoffs. If we make the playoffs. If we don't, that would be one more year of decreasing performance under MLF.

I've read that Parson should be playing sometime between weeks 3 and 5, so that is optimistic to hear. Our defense is much better with him. I also don't think Gute is done in Free Agency or maybe even trades. I see him getting through the draft, evaluating the roster needs and filling them in between May and Sept. with Free agents and/or trades. Also, any Free Agent signings after the draft, do not count against the 2027 Draft Compensatory Picks calculations.
 

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As far as this rebuild business. Theres 1 thing I’m convinced of.. IF GB sticks this draft like they did in years like 2023? Nobody in the NFL will be calling us “rebuilding” this season.
“Fully built”? Maybe

I wouldn’t be least bit surprised to see The Packers start 3-2 or 3-3 or something like that and then start getting healthy and pouncing some teams along the way. Much will be determined by how quickly our DC can transition. We’ve got multiple D coaches with dynamic levels of experience. Head Coach, DC Coordinator experience, I think just between the THREE DC, Pass Coordinator, Linebackers/assist head coach.
I counted 43 years of NFL position, Coordinator and Head Coach experience.
Not with slouch defenses either. We’ve essentially got the previous staff from
Falcons, Vikings, Panthers, Patriots, Eagles, Bills.
It will be a nip and tuck battle to win a football game each week. We have to take them one at a time and consider every opponent dangerous.
 

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I wouldn't say we're in a "rebuild" by any means, but I do think (I've said this before) that while the team wouldn't admit as much....it kind of feels like they are already looking on to 2027 for a bigger "push"
By Weeks 3 or 4 fans will definitely be able to declare Rebuild or No Rebuild.
 

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I have a hard time envisioning Sky helping out the passing game. He has not been in loaded WR rooms and averages less than 1 catch per game in his career. Now on the other hand I am cautiously optimistic that Golden and Wicks are ready to step it up. It seems to me that Reed needs to be schemed open. IMO that is why he seems to disappear at times. IMO the key to the GB WR room is Watson and his availability, which has been debated ad nauseam in the other thread.
I'd guess that unless they do something in the draft that works out; at least Sky will have a chance against Melton for some playing time. I think he did well in college. Maybe he just needs to hang on to the ball. He must know that he has to start out well.
 

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I wouldn't say we're in a "rebuild" by any means, but I do think (I've said this before) that while the team wouldn't admit as much....it kind of feels like they are already looking on to 2027 for a bigger "push"
I hope so. But haven't given up this year anyway.
 

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We've gone from looking like Super Bowl champs the first two games last year, and #1 on a lot of people's power rankings to talking about a rebuild now. Pretty sad. Although I don't think we're rebuilding. Spinning our wheels maybe.

I'm trying to see a late return by Parsons as an advantage, hopefully. A late season boost to the defense, instead of him being worn down and/or injured going into the playoffs. If we make the playoffs. If we don't, that would be one more year of decreasing performance under MLF.
I don't think anybody is saying we are in a rebuild. We aren't getting rid of all assets to look out into the future. But there is no doubt we have dropped some past starters in order, imho, to improve our team with some fresh blood and open up some money. And it just seems like 27 is the year for it really to come together. Assuming The Gute does a slam bang job with our draft picks. And if we can stay in it until Parsons comes back; we can do some damage this year.
 

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I'd guess that unless they do something in the draft that works out; at least Sky will have a chance against Melton for some playing time. I think he did well in college. Maybe he just needs to hang on to the ball. He must know that he has to start out well.
I think Skyy is a total upgrade for the Packers on Special teams. He is a threat to take it to the house on punts or kickoffs. For the past several years it seemed like returns were an afterthought for the Packers and the guys they had returning balls reflected that.

I also think he will see snaps on offense and be used in ways that the defense will have to respect his speed and shiftiness. That alone can be a benefit to the offense.
 
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Not suggesting Skyy will be the focus of the Offense but he was actually rated after George Pickens and Metchie but was before Christian Watson as the #9 ranked WR for his draft class.

Skyy played QB and DB and was All Conference at both in HS. He was a WR convert in his Freshman College season. He put out immediate results as a 2X 1st Team All MAC Conference player. In his 2nd Full season in the FBS he logged 1,294 yards, 10 TD’s at 13.73 per catch. For me, personally, the more I read he sounds very similar to Matthew Golden but at a lower echelon Conference. His 1.46 split at 10 yards was faster than Matthew Golden! Yet Golden (4.29) beat his 40 yard of 4.41 pretty good. When I watch his film he really reminds me of how Randall Cobb moved. Similar size, similar Moves but he’s a faster version. His ball tracking is pure impressive. He’s also not very easy to take down for a smaller guy.

Here’s to hoping we can get him some manufactured touches at some point.
 
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Rodell must be back. This is the type of statement that he would make, about the sky falling because the Packers didn't win the SB. Calling it a rebuild is preposterous.

Every team is trying to build towards winning it all. A rebuild is like gutting your house down to the studs. We are merely changing out a few windows and repainting the walls. It's fair to question whether that is enough to make the Packers' house any better, but confusing it with a rebuild....??
Yeah EG 2026-2027 is a long way from a rebuild. That's not the same as saying the team has a strong shot at a SB. That's a work in progress and Gluten is plugging the holes. Will that be enough for 2026-2027? We'll find out over the next few months, and as thre season progresses. No one was predicting Seattle would win the SB a year ago.

Even if it takes another year to have a legit SB contender, talent wise, the Packers will almost certainly give us another entertaining year of football. Kinda hard to complain about that. And Gluten is on top of things.
 

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I was just going to add that with only a couple of exceptions, Teams are overwhelmingly in a constant state of “build” mode.
 
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