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Message: <blockquote data-quote="weeds" data-source="post: 257498" data-attributes="member: 39">A Steelers fan came into your forum talking ****? Now THERE'S a surprise. Haha. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/eek.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" />k:Yeah, a lot of youngsters tend to ignore the fact that the NFL existed long before ESPN came on to the scene. We tend to forgive them their youthful ignorance. I once had a Vikings fan argue in a Packers forum that the Vikings had indeed won a championship because in their first Super Bowl appearance (a loss - 1 of 4), they were the "NFL Champions" because the "Super Bowl" was still called the NFL/AFL Championship Game, therefore... they had a "Championship" even though Kansas City beat them. Understand that the term "Super Bowl" was a term coined by flippin' marketing people -- I say that as facetiously as I can without using more quotation marks to signify my indifference.The people usually dropping the little turdlets that this Steelers fan is dropping are the same people as those who get all uptight about Dallas' claim to be "America's Team" -- another marketing gem that most thinking people recognize for what it is, or was ... back in the 70's, the Cowboys were the flavor of the month and their fans latched onto it assuming it must be true since Marketing people tell us it is. They're also the same people who buy "The Clapper" and give it as a Christmas gift. What these kiddies fail to recognize is that in the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame, there are footballs on display from games that were played before their team even came into existence. That point takes on weightier importance when they come to realize that outside of the Packers, Giants, Bears and Cardinals ... the other 28 teams are basically expansion franchises. :yes2: ... and that is an irrefutable fact, usually making them just go the "f" away. So, in summation ... yeah, they count ... ask any Bears fan if they count all 9 ... they'll give you the same answer that any Packers fan will give you regarding the Pack's 12. Yeah, they count ... and even though the monied new kids so to speak are able to buy a trophy every other year or so ... they've still got some catching up to do.Remind that Steeler fan that prior to the original MR Rooney hitting paydirt in the 70's .... they were a perennial whipping boy in the NFL, and when this current cycle ends ... and it will ... well, just tell him to enjoy it before the window closes - because it will.</blockquote>

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