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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 1008016" data-attributes="member: 12283">PFF was instrumental in mainstreaming the reality that QB pressure can and does include more than sacks. QB hits and hurries are important aspects of QB disruption. But I think they've gone too far to the point that they treat sacks and other pressures as too comparable, too close in value, and that's reflected in their grading. They make the case that sacks are not a stable, predictable outcomes and so QB pressure is a better indicator of who the best pass rushers and pass rushing teams are. That's true, but that doesn't mean that pressures are anywhere close to as valuable as a sack. And actually closing the deal and sacking a QB is partially attributable to skill. We have all seen players who produce pressure but aren't good at getting a QB on the ground (e.g. Brandon Graham-- average of 5.4 sacks/season over his career). In any given season, offensive drives that include a sack fail at a rate of around 80%. By PFF's own numbers, a hit or hurry is worth -0.3 Expected Points Added, while a sack is worth -1.9 (over 6 times the value). But I don't think this difference is properly factored into their grades. A player with three sacks should have a super high grade unless they were just total gimme's.</blockquote>

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