Parsons Trade

[rmontro]

I mentioned that Parsons is not the kind of person who will come into a locker room and become everyone's friend. In fact, based on information I have, that came straight from the Cowboys locker room, he was considered an abbreviation for Richard. He was moody, and didn't really become part of the family of players, choosing to be an "It's all about me" person. Based on whom the person was who suggested this to me, I'm pretty darned confident it's true.

Between Parsons and Golden, this Packer team is going to have a little more personality than we're used to. Another thing I'd say is that aside from QBs, we don't usually have players that are good enough to be "Richards".

I wanted to see what Skip Bayless thought about all this, knowing he is a big Cowboy fan. He said basically that Parsons is a one trick pony, only good for rushing the quarterback, can't defend the run, and thus is not an elite defensive player (even if he's elite at pass rushing). He also said that he made a big splash in his first year, but then the league figured him out, and he hasn't taken over a game since. He did preface these comments by saying he was biased, being a Cowboy fan though. One of the other guys on the panel pointed out that he has never led the league in sacks.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

I wanted to see what Skip Bayless thought about all this

Stopped reading after that. When someone finds Skip Bayless credible or relevant, they have shown themselves to have zero clue.

Micah is in the facility today(Sunday)with Haf and the defensive coaches. The real work has begun. Monday is the start of game week.

100% focus on Detroit. ALL energy now towards getting that dub on September 7th.

Trade talk is over, now it gets real.

OneTeamOneNation
PackerNation!

 

[gopkrs]

One thing I saw on replays is how good Micah is at picking his way through the line to get to the QB. He is so quick and alert that running stunts for him makes a lot of sense. Also his incredible arm strength allows him to take on a tackle one on one. But he is outweighed at that so can he keep it up? And of course I am a little worried about teams running it up the gut with Kenny gone. But we were swarming and quick last year at the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we will be able to keep that up.

 

[rmontro]

Stopped reading after that. When someone finds Skip Bayless credible or relevant, they have shown themselves to have zero clue.

Where did I say I thought he was credible or reliable? I just wanted to hear what he said because I know he's a big Cowboy fan. Truth be told, I wanted to hear him whine.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Where did I say I thought he was credible or reliable? I just wanted to hear what he said because I know he's a big Cowboy fan. Truth be told, I wanted to hear him whine.

Ok, but giving him attention enough to listen to him whine is giving him credibility. He wants your attention any way he can get it.

 

[rmontro]

Ok, but giving him attention enough to listen to him whine is giving him credibility. He wants your attention any way he can get it.

And yet the world keeps turning.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

One thing I saw on replays is how good Micah is at picking his way through the line to get to the QB. He is so quick and alert that running stunts for him makes a lot of sense. Also his incredible arm strength allows him to take on a tackle one on one. But he is outweighed at that so can he keep it up? And of course I am a little worried about teams running it up the gut with Kenny gone. But we were swarming and quick last year at the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we will be able to keep that up.

Wyatt, Brooks, and Wooden will be center stage against Detroit. Haf and the boys will be ready.

Kenny was a loss, but some(dallas, bears, vikings and lions fans) are acting like he was the Packers whole defense last year. "The Pack is doomed. Get ready for 10 years of decline."

Truth will be told on the grass.

 

[rmontro]

Kenny was a loss, but some(dallas, bears, vikings and lions fans) are acting like he was the Packers whole defense last year. "The Pack is doomed. Get ready for 10 years of decline."

Some think this was his last year with us anyway, so that makes it easier to swallow.

 

[Heyjoe4]

People really haven't watched Kenny play the last few years if theyre saying things like this

Fair enough. My comment was just intuition based on stuff I've read, nothing specific. The consensus was that Clark had regressed as a pass rusher but held up well in run D.

What intel do you have that counters that? From your comment I see that you've been paying attention to his performance "the last few years". What have you seen?

 

[tynimiller]

I mentioned that Parsons is not the kind of person who will come into a locker room and become everyone's friend. In fact, based on information I have, that came straight from the Cowboys locker room, he was considered an abbreviation for Richard. He was moody, and didn't really become part of the family of players, choosing to be an "It's all about me" person. Based on whom the person was who suggested this to me, I'm pretty darned confident it's true.

Now, that could be due to the Cowboys locker room itself. Maybe it wasn't conducive to players bonding. I didn't ask, and wasn't told that was the case. It left me believing it was more about him, and his own personality.

We're going to find out what kind of a presence he has in the Packers locker room real fast. There isn't a lot of time for them to hold hands and tip toe through the tulips together. It's all going to be hard work when Parsons hits the field with the rest of the team.

Have heard this as well and I’m hoping a few things help Parsons become incredible and buy in:

1 - This is Love’s team, he is the more cerebral and quiet leader of the this team that everyone looks to.

2 - This defense is McKinney’s and Gary’s (was also Clark’s). Established leadership will be looked to if needed to choose between Parsons and the GB way currently.

3 - Jacobs. This young man from everything I’ve heard from my connections is the constant pulse of the team in practices and games. He will check someone back in when needed, put his arm around a shoulder or smack someone’s upside the head…constantly coaching too regardless of position.

Cowboys may have paid but Dak isn’t half the leader those guys above are and the constant presence of crazy Jerry would be a constant feeling of uneasiness. GB is stable and cohesive…if Parsons buys in I really do think something insanely special could play out in his three year contract window with us (and potentially longer if they reworked it then).

 

[tynimiller]

Wyatt, Brooks, and Wooden will be center stage against Detroit. Haf and the boys will be ready.

Kenny was a loss, but some(dallas, bears, vikings and lions fans) are acting like he was the Packers whole defense last year. "The Pack is doomed. Get ready for 10 years of decline."

Truth will be told on the grass.

LVN is going to reduce inside a solid amount.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Stopped reading after that. When someone finds Skip Bayless credible or relevant, they have shown themselves to have zero clue.

Micah is in the facility today(Sunday)with Haf and the defensive coaches. The real work has begun. Monday is the start of game week.

100% focus on Detroit. ALL energy now towards getting that dub on September 7th.

Trade talk is over, now it gets real.

OneTeamOneNation
PackerNation!

Amazing to me that such a polarizing guy like Skip Clueless gets views. It's like looking at the aftermath of a car crash. Can't not look.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Some think this was his last year with us anyway, so that makes it easier to swallow.

Yeah my take was that Clark was still solid in run defense, but had slipped in pressures/sacks. He was a great Packer and it's hard to see him leave. But all teams go through this when top players reach their final years.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Wyatt, Brooks, and Wooden will be center stage against Detroit. Haf and the boys will be ready.

Kenny was a loss, but some(dallas, bears, vikings and lions fans) are acting like he was the Packers whole defense last year. "The Pack is doomed. Get ready for 10 years of decline."

Truth will be told on the grass.

Agreed. I think Stackhouse will be getting a lot of snaps now. Seems like he turned heads in camp as an UDFA. And maybe Brinson?

Funny how people who like and specifically don't like the trade are reacting. For the detractors, all of a sudden Clark was the poster child for the entire GB defense. And as for that Parsons guy, well he isn't good against the run and he never led the league in sacks.

And to be fair, there are a smaller number who believe Parsons is the second coming and GB is all set to win the SB this season and many more.

The truth, as always, lies in the middle.

As for me, I never watched a lot of Parsons video, but there seemed to be a consensus that he was a beast in the passing game. 52.5 sacks over 4 tears kinda confirms that. But now I have watched some of his video. He is an extremely instinctual and nimble pass rusher. He's tall and strong, but what impressed me was his intuition and flexibility, especially in the hips. Anyway I like the trade. One guy isn't going to win a SB, but this guy sure improves the odds.

 

[Voyageur]

Have heard this as well and I’m hoping a few things help Parsons become incredible and buy in:

1 - This is Love’s team, he is the more cerebral and quiet leader of the this team that everyone looks to.

2 - This defense is McKinney’s and Gary’s (was also Clark’s). Established leadership will be looked to if needed to choose between Parsons and the GB way currently.

3 - Jacobs. This young man from everything I’ve heard from my connections is the constant pulse of the team in practices and games. He will check someone back in when needed, put his arm around a shoulder or smack someone’s upside the head…constantly coaching too regardless of position.

Cowboys may have paid but Dak isn’t half the leader those guys above are and the constant presence of crazy Jerry would be a constant feeling of uneasiness. GB is stable and cohesive…if Parsons buys in I really do think something insanely special could play out in his three year contract window with us (and potentially longer if they reworked it then).

All excellent points. I've had a personal connection with Josh since before he came to the Packers. He's a family man and he's helped a great deal to create that kind of an environment around him in Green Bay. He's the kind of person who appreciates everything around him, and the people who are part of it, and support it. He loves being where he is, who he's with, and the fan base that he thinks is totally amazing. He enjoys the closeness of community more than most players every have.

In a separate post, you mentioned Van Ness. You're absolutely right. That guy is going to unleash the dogs this year as a threat anywhere along the defensive line, and it will bring Gary and Parsons games out even more. This could be the year where the Packers defense steps up big time and becomes a weapon not just an obstruction against the opposition.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Have heard this as well and I’m hoping a few things help Parsons become incredible and buy in:

1 - This is Love’s team, he is the more cerebral and quiet leader of the this team that everyone looks to.

2 - This defense is McKinney’s and Gary’s (was also Clark’s). Established leadership will be looked to if needed to choose between Parsons and the GB way currently.

3 - Jacobs. This young man from everything I’ve heard from my connections is the constant pulse of the team in practices and games. He will check someone back in when needed, put his arm around a shoulder or smack someone’s upside the head…constantly coaching too regardless of position.

Cowboys may have paid but Dak isn’t half the leader those guys above are and the constant presence of crazy Jerry would be a constant feeling of uneasiness. GB is stable and cohesive…if Parsons buys in I really do think something insanely special could play out in his three year contract window with us (and potentially longer if they reworked it then).

Agree with how McKinney and Jacobs are seen as the leaders of the defense and offense, respectively. It shows on the field.

I'm not so sure this is Love's team, yet. To be a viable leader in any sport, that person has to perform at an exceptionally high level, consistently, at his own position, at a minimum. We've certainly seen brilliant play from Love, but it hasn't been consistent.

I expect this is the year he becomes the true "leader of the Pack". He has to be encouraged by the Parsons deal, and that the first, second, and third draft picks were on offense - Golden especially. This will be a big year for Love and I see him meeting the challenge.

 

[Heyjoe4]

LVN is going to reduce inside a solid amount.

I think you mean LVN will move inside on many more snaps, and I agree. He's tall, athletic, strong and quick. The one rap is a lack of flexibility in his hips. That isn't quite as important if he's rushing from the middle, or on stunts that move him inside.

This defense will be a headache for opponents. And better line play from the inside and outside of the DL makes the job of the CBs a little easier.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

A lot of my expectation is that Parsons will have much of the offenses concentration and that will free up that other guys to get home.

One of my biggest concerns is how he will affect the locker room.

 

[OldSchool101]

One of the other guys on the panel pointed out that he has never led the league in sacks.

Absolutely. The key to Micah is age. That’s what many that are grading him are not talking about. He’s likely not at his prime. Myles Garrett is really the litmus test currently and he peaked in years 5,6 with 16 Sacks. Historically only 1 player in NFL history started faster than Parsons. Our truly,, Reggie White. However Reggie leveled off into Parsons territory after a historical start. 70 sacks in 4 seasons to start.

LVN is going to reduce inside a solid amount.

I was thinking same thing. For me the key is finding out how we can showcase our best 4 DL. Imo now that Kenny is gone, LVN makes that list. Plus yeah he’s only like 272lb, but power game is substantial. He uses his Length to Power, but he’s faster than many QB’s in open space and if he already has a step of momentum, he closes that space to QB gap pretty quickly.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

One of my biggest concerns is how he will affect the locker room.

How he affects the locker room will be up to the Packers to decide. As I stated somewhere else, the Packers need to make him aware that doing his podcast during the season could cause unnecessary distractions. The podcast during the season is my only real concern. I think this whole "arrogant" narrative coming from Dallas, is bunk and created by those that have an agenda against Micah. Much like the FEW here on this forum that have an agenda against me. Calling me "arrogant" on a Packers fan forum is completely ridiculous. I did enjoy the giggles though.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Some think this was his last year with us anyway, so that makes it easier to swallow.

I will no doubt miss Kenny. I am not sure on the "last year" thing, but he is indeed gone now. Time to move on.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Listen. There’s no right or wrong answers in this one.

Not yet. Parsons time in GB will be the only answer that matters.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

None of those guys is getting a top of market deal.

I never said that any of them are, but 5 months can really change what a player is "worth", so you can't rule it out either. More importantly, every available cap dollar matters. If you don't agree with that, then you really aren't in touch with the cap.

 

[tynimiller]

Agree with how McKinney and Jacobs are seen as the leaders of the defense and offense, respectively. It shows on the field.

I'm not so sure this is Love's team, yet. To be a viable leader in any sport, that person has to perform at an exceptionally high level, consistently, at his own position, at a minimum. We've certainly seen brilliant play from Love, but it hasn't been consistent.

I expect this is the year he becomes the true "leader of the Pack". He has to be encouraged by the Parsons deal, and that the first, second, and third draft picks were on offense - Golden especially. This will be a big year for Love and I see him meeting the challenge.

Disagree, many felt Jones was a massive leader when he was here and Aaron was good but not crazy high level…

Likewise Jamaal Williams some said was one of the biggest locker room presences felt gone when he left.

Love is a different kind of leader, but for sure is. Jones knew it and sensed it years ago.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Of those 1st three players Walker and Rhyan allready have their highly drafted replacements on the roster and were highly likely to be gone before the Parsons trade

Watson is comming off tearing up his knee and Doubs is one concusion away from retirement. Even before the trade only one gets brought back at most

The Parsons contract isnt going to have much of an effect on who we retain in free agency since those players were most likely gone beforehand but rather their ability to sign outside players in free agency.

On the plus side that means we will most likely max out on the 4 extra comp picks in two years

I would also imagine Enagbare is being dangled as trade bait right now

The 2025 season can and probably will change players values. It will also no doubt affect/change the Packers needs going into 2026. Available cap money for the Packers isn't just about being able to sign their own, but more importantly, it is looking at the money available to improve the 2025 team and that includes ALL free agents.