Parris Campbell

[GleefulGary]

"FICTION" is discussed over in the Dante mock draft thread.

This one is on point. Let's please keep it that way.

Right. Your player evaluations/projections are impeccable, as evidenced by Charles Harris and Calvin Ridley.

 

[GleefulGary]

The ceiling for Campbell is a guy like Percy Harvin. And let's be honest, Campbell is no Harvin.

Anyways, Harvin's best year he had 87/967/6 and ran for 350 yards on 52 carries.

Those are obviously nice numbers, but is that worth a 1st round pick?

Considering you can find RB's and WR's that can put those numbers up in later rounds, like the 2nd day, I would argue it's not worth it.

2nd round for Campbell, probably. But not the first round. I'd easily take a real WR like Hakeem Butler over Campbell. Or AJ Brown.

 

[brandon2348]

The ceiling for Campbell is a guy like Percy Harvin. And let's be honest, Campbell is no Harvin.

Anyways, Harvin's best year he had 87/967/6 and ran for 350 yards on 52 carries.

Those are obviously nice numbers, but is that worth a 1st round pick?

Considering you can find RB's and WR's that can put those numbers up in later rounds, like the 2nd day, I would argue it's not worth it.

2nd round for Campbell, probably. But not the first round. I'd easily take a real WR like Hakeem Butler over Campbell. Or AJ Brown.

IMO Campbell has worked and become a more natural route runner and RECEIVER already over Harvin. Lets face it. Harvin was a guy that relied 100 percent on athletic ability and didn't really work hard to become better and master his craft. Hence his short career at being effective. Harvin lacked the intangibles to be great.

Parris Campbell is a GRAND SLAM PiCK! The guy has the work ethic and correct attitude along with natural talent to be GREAT! His ceiling is sky high and I feel much more comfortable with his intangibles coming out.

BTW, football insiders were enamored with how Campbell tracked deep balls at the combine so your running out of wind here in your sails.

Butler is definitely an intriguing prospect but the need is for someone more of what Campbells skill set is. I would have no problem at all if the Packers drafted both of them which i have actually suggested.

 

[GleefulGary]

Harvin had a short career because of injuries/migraines you dunce.

 

[GleefulGary]

If he is the grand slam pick you say he is, then we should take him at 12, right?

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Harvin had a short career because of injuries/migraines you dunce.

That may be true but attempting to compare him with Campbell is lousy.

It's also obvious you know nothing about Urban Meyer offenses.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

If he is the grand slam pick you say he is, then we should take him at 12, right?

I would, unless there is a superstar FS, keyword superstar iron man never injured FS available that we could not pass up.

But if we're going to seriously fix this tire fire offense we been putting out over the last two years, first round picks must be spent on it.

 

[GleefulGary]

That may be true but attempting to compare him with Campbell is lousy.

It's also obvious you know nothing about Urban Meyer offenses.

I was referring to how Lance Zeirline compared him to Harvin.

Urban Meyer also recruited Campbell by saying he could use him like Harvin.

But carry on.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I was referring to how Lance Zeirline compared him to Harvin.

Urban Meyer also recruited Campbell by saying he could use him like Harvin.

But carry on.

RIDICULOUS BS!!!

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

NFL Scout On Parris Campbell:

"Jet sweep and catch-and-run specialist with much to learn still. Limited experience with route tree and downfield looks. Flat, rounded routes lack quality fakes at the top.

Drafting him before the middle of the 2nd round would be a reach."

 

[GleefulGary]

RIDICULOUS BS!!!

Uhhhh...ok?

Go look at some of his recruiting articles. Might learn a thing or two.

 

[Dantés]

Uhhhh...ok?

Go look at some of his recruiting articles. Might learn a thing or two.

Can the all caps crew maybe have their own little corner of the forum where they can throw poop at each other? Maybe we can call it "the cage?"

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Countdown to Campbell draft ... And it's in just 10 days ...

Do not fall for these ridiculous TE overvaluations that are nowhere near the talent level of Gronk or Ertz

 

[brandon2348]

NFL Scout On Parris Campbell:

"Jet sweep and catch-and-run specialist with much to learn still. Limited experience with route tree and downfield looks. Flat, rounded routes lack quality fakes at the top.

Drafting him before the middle of the 2nd round would be a reach."

If you get caught in the "He Never did that in College" deal you will most likely not do well as a GM overall.

GM's make there $ projecting what they feel a player can do at the next level and quite frankly that separates the good ones from the bad ones.

Also, Campbell has plenty of tape popping his hips out of breaks on shorter routes. The ABILITY is there.

 

[brandon2348]

I was referring to how Lance Zeirline compared him to Harvin.

Urban Meyer also recruited Campbell by saying he could use him like Harvin.

But carry on.

I believe Zeirline is wrong which he actually is a lot. His takes SUCK for the most part. They might be athletically comparable but Campbell is much more refined.

Harvin was a head case and a locker room problem and lacked the character Campbell(team captain) does.

Go research Harvin with the Seahawks after he got paid where he basically quite on his team during a game leading to his release. There was also the Pre-Super Bowl incident where he knocked out Golden Tate. Harvin was a cancer and a ME GUY and didnt work hard at his craft like I've explained before.

This Campbell is as safe as a pick as Sutton was last year. If the Packers took him at 12 I wouldnt complain a bit. He checks all the boxes. He will be a GAME CHANGER in the NFL.

 

[brandon2348]

Countdown to Campbell draft ... And it's in just 10 days ...

Do not fall for these ridiculous TE overvaluations that are nowhere near the talent level of Gronk or Ertz

They might be the biggest OVERVALUATIONS I have ever seen.

 

[Dantés]

I believe Zeirline is wrong which he actually is a lot. His takes SUCK for the most part. They might be athletically comparable but Campbell is much more refined.

Harvin was a head case and a locker room problem and lacked the character Campbell(team captain) does.

Go research Harvin with the Seahawks after he got paid where he basically quite on his team during a game leading to his release. There was also the Pre-Super Bowl incident where he knocked out Golden Tate. Harvin was a cancer and a ME GUY and didnt work hard at his craft like I've explained before.

This Campbell is as safe as a pick as Sutton was last year. If the Packers took him at 12 I wouldnt complain a bit. He checks all the boxes. He will be a GAME CHANGER in the NFL.

The comparison is meant to be in terms of athleticism and style in college. I'm sure no one is trying to say that Campbell is a head case because he played a similar game to Harvin for Meyer.

As such, I think it's a good comp. And I actually think it should be taken as a compliment. Harvin was a really effective offensive weapon before his issues took over.

 

[Dantés]

Countdown to Campbell draft ... And it's in just 10 days ...

Do not fall for these ridiculous TE overvaluations that are nowhere near the talent level of Gronk or Ertz

It could be a long, long time before we see another Gronkowski in the NFL, if we ever do at all. But Hockenson is a way better prospect than Ertz was coming out of Standard. Just head and shoulders better in every way. Use whatever standard you want-- production, athleticism, film review, advanced metrics-- there is no comparison.

 

[GleefulGary]

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1117947086157357056?s=19

 

[brandon2348]

The comparison is meant to be in terms of athleticism and style in college. I'm sure no one is trying to say that Campbell is a head case because he played a similar game to Harvin for Meyer.

As such, I think it's a good comp. And I actually think it should be taken as a compliment. Harvin was a really effective offensive weapon before his issues took over.

Maybe it is to a degree. Harvin was stronger and a little smaller and tick slower. Harvin definitely had some explosion but the biggest difference I see is Campbell is just much more fluid on tape and I believe farther along as a receiver coming out.

There is zero comparison as far as intangibles. Football IQ, Character, Work Ethic, Leadership Skills all favor Campbell by a mile so to me it's not a good comp.

Elite athletes that are willing to work hard make great football players in the NFL which is why I have Campbell so high.

 

[Dantés]

Maybe it is to a degree. Harvin was stronger and a little smaller and tick slower. Harvin definitely had some explosion but the biggest difference I see is Campbell is just much more fluid on tape and I believe farther along as a receiver coming out.

There is zero comparison as far as intangibles. Football IQ, Character, Work Ethic, Leadership Skills all favor Campbell by a mile so to me it's not a good comp.

Elite athletes that are willing to work hard make great football players in the NFL which is why I have Campbell so high.

I don't have any reason to doubt Campbell's work ethic, but I do have some concerns about his ability to run routes down the field and catch the ball. By concerns, I'm not telling anyone he can't do it. But he simply did not do it in college. Virtually never. Being a GM is indeed about projection, but this is a pretty extreme case.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

It could be a long, long time before we see another Gronkowski in the NFL, if we ever do at all. But Hockenson is a way better prospect than Ertz was coming out of Standard. Just head and shoulders better in every way. Use whatever standard you want-- production, athleticism, film review, advanced metrics-- there is no comparison.

Don't see it at all, nor is he any more a first rounder than Austin Hooper would have ever been.

 

[brandon2348]

I don't have any reason to doubt Campbell's work ethic, but I do have some concerns about his ability to run routes down the field and catch the ball. By concerns, I'm not telling anyone he can't do it. But he simply did not do it in college. Virtually never. Being a GM is indeed about projection, but this is a pretty extreme case.

How many deep routes did Tyreek Hill run in college?

I understand its THE COMBINE but Campbell didn't show any limitations in deep routes.

Rookie year you have a scheme specific player with big play production that can develop. If the Packers don't bite the bullet on developing a top notch receiver now there will never be a time.

 

[brandon2348]

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1117947086157357056?s=19

It's just ridiculous to take one bad play and judge the entire body of work of a prospect.

I could find a handful of bad plays by any player in this draft. Even the Great Mackey Award winner Hockenson.

 

[Dantés]

Don't see it at all, nor is he any more a first rounder than Austin Hooper would have ever been.

This is strong, I know-- but my only conclusion is that you must not know what you're looking at. He's one of the two best TE prospects since Gronkowski and one of the easiest evals in this class.