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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 447433" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I disagree that before Wolf arrived the Packers didn't have problems drafting and otherwise acquiring talent. If you think the Packers big problem was the parade of great players out of Green Bay, perhaps you could list them year-by-year. That's not what I witnessed. I saw players who didn't want to go to or stay with a losing or at best mediocre team. Look at the HC hired after Lombardi and before Wolf: Do you see a list of great HCs hampered only by the rules which applied to every other NFL team? I don't. I see mostly mediocrity and horrid personnel decisions. And the muddled organizational chart before Harlan fixed it made the situation even worse. No one was truly in charge, everyone was looking over their shoulder. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">And I did not imply you posted Wolf wasn't a factor at all. Look at my post: "rule changes <em>were more important</em>…", "(they) <em>were a bigger factor</em>…", "… <em>the most important factor</em>…". You've repeated the same idea again, that rule changes "were the single biggest factor" and I just think that makes no sense. If that were the case, why haven't all the teams under the rules "developed long-term success"? The reason for the Packers success was <em>mostly</em> because they finally put a football man in charge of all football operations and the guy Harlan picked happened to be a very talented talent evaluator and GM. The rule changes which applied to everyone were a distant third, fourth, or fifth reason IMO. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 447433, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma]I disagree that before Wolf arrived the Packers didn't have problems drafting and otherwise acquiring talent. If you think the Packers big problem was the parade of great players out of Green Bay, perhaps you could list them year-by-year. That's not what I witnessed. I saw players who didn't want to go to or stay with a losing or at best mediocre team. Look at the HC hired after Lombardi and before Wolf: Do you see a list of great HCs hampered only by the rules which applied to every other NFL team? I don't. I see mostly mediocrity and horrid personnel decisions. And the muddled organizational chart before Harlan fixed it made the situation even worse. No one was truly in charge, everyone was looking over their shoulder. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]And I did not imply you posted Wolf wasn't a factor at all. Look at my post: "rule changes [I]were more important[/I]…", "(they) [I]were a bigger factor[/I]…", "… [I]the most important factor[/I]…". You've repeated the same idea again, that rule changes "were the single biggest factor" and I just think that makes no sense. If that were the case, why haven't all the teams under the rules "developed long-term success"? The reason for the Packers success was [I]mostly[/I] because they finally put a football man in charge of all football operations and the guy Harlan picked happened to be a very talented talent evaluator and GM. The rule changes which applied to everyone were a distant third, fourth, or fifth reason IMO. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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