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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1076754" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Talking about Doubs?</p><p></p><p>Doubs is just from a physical intangible stance slightly less than Watson - you just don't get many bodies with Watsons' size that can do what he does. Golden in order to do a lot of what Watson could do just from a physical stance is over 20 lbs lighter almost and nearly half a foot shorter. Speed can be very minimally refined and twitch can be somewhat enhanced but just phsyically speaking Watson > Golden > Doubs is clearly where they are physically from a uncoachable stance.</p><p></p><p>However, I would argue in some of the technique and things which can be worked on and become more crafted in Doubs shines and has for as young as he is from the start. Few examples of this...many times young prospects and even many receivers until years into the league really struggle with body positioning as their #1 ability to make contested catches. Many just chalk it up to whoever can jump the highest or have the longest arms...and while those things assist for sure, a WR that knows when to jump, how to use his back in a way you would fighting for a rebound can greatly eliminate a much taller and at times even more athletic defender from being able to make a play on the ball - a prime example of this is look at how good Rodman was at rebounding even when up against BIGGER, TALLER and LONGER guys. He understood more than most how to use his body. Doubs often shines at this...his floor therefore in this category is much higher than most.</p><p></p><p>Watson as example really to me at least still just relies heavily on I'm taller, more athletic and a freak to catch contested balls...if he crafts the artform of body control as well more so...it would be borderline Megatron / Moss level stuff, which those two were insane at this (and both were arguably athletic freaks as well).</p><p></p><p>Doubs to me very much strikes me as a guy that really could follow the Donald Driver type pathway career wise....just quietly does everything good and borderline great, never is a guy the league fears persay but all of his opponents always accounted for him. That's his best case, I think worse case for Doubs is a James Jones type career - very solid, dependable but always that quietly excellent WR2.</p><p></p><p>Watson and Golden could play out like better versions of Javon Walker or be legit future DK (Watson) or Jennings type (Golden - yes I know faster)....I just don't see the floor potential in Doubs being as separated from his ceiling as Watson and Golden arguably could have or may. Now for Watson we know more, we've seen his impact on games...he is going to be more than Javon so long as healthy - he's proven that much to me for sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1076754, member: 6578"] Talking about Doubs? Doubs is just from a physical intangible stance slightly less than Watson - you just don't get many bodies with Watsons' size that can do what he does. Golden in order to do a lot of what Watson could do just from a physical stance is over 20 lbs lighter almost and nearly half a foot shorter. Speed can be very minimally refined and twitch can be somewhat enhanced but just phsyically speaking Watson > Golden > Doubs is clearly where they are physically from a uncoachable stance. However, I would argue in some of the technique and things which can be worked on and become more crafted in Doubs shines and has for as young as he is from the start. Few examples of this...many times young prospects and even many receivers until years into the league really struggle with body positioning as their #1 ability to make contested catches. Many just chalk it up to whoever can jump the highest or have the longest arms...and while those things assist for sure, a WR that knows when to jump, how to use his back in a way you would fighting for a rebound can greatly eliminate a much taller and at times even more athletic defender from being able to make a play on the ball - a prime example of this is look at how good Rodman was at rebounding even when up against BIGGER, TALLER and LONGER guys. He understood more than most how to use his body. Doubs often shines at this...his floor therefore in this category is much higher than most. Watson as example really to me at least still just relies heavily on I'm taller, more athletic and a freak to catch contested balls...if he crafts the artform of body control as well more so...it would be borderline Megatron / Moss level stuff, which those two were insane at this (and both were arguably athletic freaks as well). Doubs to me very much strikes me as a guy that really could follow the Donald Driver type pathway career wise....just quietly does everything good and borderline great, never is a guy the league fears persay but all of his opponents always accounted for him. That's his best case, I think worse case for Doubs is a James Jones type career - very solid, dependable but always that quietly excellent WR2. Watson and Golden could play out like better versions of Javon Walker or be legit future DK (Watson) or Jennings type (Golden - yes I know faster)....I just don't see the floor potential in Doubs being as separated from his ceiling as Watson and Golden arguably could have or may. Now for Watson we know more, we've seen his impact on games...he is going to be more than Javon so long as healthy - he's proven that much to me for sure. [/QUOTE]
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