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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 372820" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It can be near the top of the list but IMO the #1 priority has to be talent. For example, if a GM overemphasized character he may not have pursued Charles Woodson. Woodson’s behavior since he arrived in Green Bay makes it easy to forget he was considered somewhat of a character risk before Thompson signed him. It was mostly injury worriies that left only two teams seriously interested in his services relatively late in the signing period for stud FAs. But he was considered a potential problem in the locker room too. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I agree Thompson and McCarthy emphasize character more than many other NFL teams and I think they pay attention to the atmosphere of the locker room more than most, too. But whenever I hear “Packer people” I think of Johnny Jolly. That’s the “Packer person” who can’t quite stay away from illegal drugs. Even with his career on the line. He’s the one Thompson, McCarthy and everyone else in the front office knew was doing drugs and hanging out with criminals in July of 2008. The one some in the Houston police department thought was dealing drugs. And in spite of this public display of bad character, Jolly started 32 regular season games <em>after</em> being arrested. And that happened because the bottom line has to be talent. A team needs more than talent, but talented players are a prerequisite to winning championships. That’s why Thompson took a flier on Jolly in the sixth round of the 2006 draft with pick #183 (after Tony Moll and right before Tyrone Culver). Because Jolly was big and athletic and worth the risk.I believe Thompson and company do the best they can acquiring “good” people, but like Ted says,<span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> “</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The good Lord only makes so many of those </span></span>big<span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">, athletic </span></span>guys”, and he’s absolutely right. So the Packers, <em>just like nearly every other team in the league</em>, will give a talented player more chances to reform than they give marginal players. I have trouble reconciling that with “Packer people” as it appears some fans understand the term. </p><p> </p><p>With regard to fans, I don’t think Packers fans are unique in their attitudes towards player who get in trouble.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 372820, member: 4300"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Verdana]It can be near the top of the list but IMO the #1 priority has to be talent. For example, if a GM overemphasized character he may not have pursued Charles Woodson. Woodson’s behavior since he arrived in Green Bay makes it easy to forget he was considered somewhat of a character risk before Thompson signed him. It was mostly injury worriies that left only two teams seriously interested in his services relatively late in the signing period for stud FAs. But he was considered a potential problem in the locker room too. [/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] I agree Thompson and McCarthy emphasize character more than many other NFL teams and I think they pay attention to the atmosphere of the locker room more than most, too. But whenever I hear “Packer people” I think of Johnny Jolly. That’s the “Packer person” who can’t quite stay away from illegal drugs. Even with his career on the line. He’s the one Thompson, McCarthy and everyone else in the front office knew was doing drugs and hanging out with criminals in July of 2008. The one some in the Houston police department thought was dealing drugs. And in spite of this public display of bad character, Jolly started 32 regular season games [I]after[/I] being arrested. And that happened because the bottom line has to be talent. A team needs more than talent, but talented players are a prerequisite to winning championships. That’s why Thompson took a flier on Jolly in the sixth round of the 2006 draft with pick #183 (after Tony Moll and right before Tyrone Culver). Because Jolly was big and athletic and worth the risk.I believe Thompson and company do the best they can acquiring “good” people, but like Ted says,[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] “[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The good Lord only makes so many of those [/FONT][/COLOR]big[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana], athletic [/FONT][/COLOR]guys”, and he’s absolutely right. So the Packers, [I]just like nearly every other team in the league[/I], will give a talented player more chances to reform than they give marginal players. I have trouble reconciling that with “Packer people” as it appears some fans understand the term. With regard to fans, I don’t think Packers fans are unique in their attitudes towards player who get in trouble. [/QUOTE]
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