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<blockquote data-quote="childerm" data-source="post: 1068343" data-attributes="member: 11191"><p>I don't talk on here much. And I haven't said anything on here in some time. And I love lists, but yours bothers me. Respectfully. Let me explain.</p><p>I get what you are trying to get across here. Elite players like Parsons do reach free agency. But it is very very rare. You put a very small handful of names up but some of those names don't belong up there. I'm talking about elite players you build teams around, change teams. Names you know will make an impact. Impacts that win championships. Let us go through this: </p><p> </p><p>Reggie White - Yes.</p><p>Drew Brees? No. Though he won a superbowl and was among the elite a few year after, no one considered him one at that time he was a free agent. He had, in his 5 years prior to going to the saints: year one a backup, two a barely mediocre year, three a bad year he got benched, four a good year, then finished with a decent year. He was more akin to a Kirk Cousins type of free agent, not a "we a we buying a super bowl this year with this guy" type of talent. But still a type of player that rarely reaches free agency. There was also a major injury concern with him too at the time. </p><p>Deion Sanders - Again yes.</p><p>Charles Woodson. As much as some would disagree, no. Was he still an elite player when he got to Green Bay? Yes. Was he viewed as an elite player when he got to Green Bay? No. Not anymore. He missed like 20 some games from injuries over the last few years of his time in Oakland. He was viewed as injury prone and broken. No one wanted him. He was not a highly sought after target on the market. He even said he only went to Green Bay because they were the only team to offer him a contract. He would be better suited in the same category Jerry Rice is in.</p><p>Priest Holmes. Again no. Dude had one good year prior to being a backup before signing for peanuts and nickels with the Chiefs. Yeah he was absolutely fantastic in his short time in Kansas City, but maybe only about 5 of the loudest and most homer of the Chief Stans out there would have considered him an elite talent when they signed him.</p><p>Simeon Rice. Yes. Just not as much yes and White or Sanders.</p><p></p><p>Manning I would personally put in that elite category. Same with Tom Brady. Both were still playing at an elite level and among the top of the league their last years in Indy and NE. One name I think could be added to the elite list, but I don't know as it is slightly before I truly started paying attention to NFL football so I don't know what the opinion was around him in free agency, but Rod Woodson. If i remember correctly, kind of had a rough year of injuries his last year in Pittsburg but was a pretty damn good player.</p><p></p><p>That's it. I'm done.</p><p></p><p>Edit to add: Should have continued to read prior to starting this. See there were already conversations about this before I even started typing. I feel silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="childerm, post: 1068343, member: 11191"] I don't talk on here much. And I haven't said anything on here in some time. And I love lists, but yours bothers me. Respectfully. Let me explain. I get what you are trying to get across here. Elite players like Parsons do reach free agency. But it is very very rare. You put a very small handful of names up but some of those names don't belong up there. I'm talking about elite players you build teams around, change teams. Names you know will make an impact. Impacts that win championships. Let us go through this: Reggie White - Yes. Drew Brees? No. Though he won a superbowl and was among the elite a few year after, no one considered him one at that time he was a free agent. He had, in his 5 years prior to going to the saints: year one a backup, two a barely mediocre year, three a bad year he got benched, four a good year, then finished with a decent year. He was more akin to a Kirk Cousins type of free agent, not a "we a we buying a super bowl this year with this guy" type of talent. But still a type of player that rarely reaches free agency. There was also a major injury concern with him too at the time. Deion Sanders - Again yes. Charles Woodson. As much as some would disagree, no. Was he still an elite player when he got to Green Bay? Yes. Was he viewed as an elite player when he got to Green Bay? No. Not anymore. He missed like 20 some games from injuries over the last few years of his time in Oakland. He was viewed as injury prone and broken. No one wanted him. He was not a highly sought after target on the market. He even said he only went to Green Bay because they were the only team to offer him a contract. He would be better suited in the same category Jerry Rice is in. Priest Holmes. Again no. Dude had one good year prior to being a backup before signing for peanuts and nickels with the Chiefs. Yeah he was absolutely fantastic in his short time in Kansas City, but maybe only about 5 of the loudest and most homer of the Chief Stans out there would have considered him an elite talent when they signed him. Simeon Rice. Yes. Just not as much yes and White or Sanders. Manning I would personally put in that elite category. Same with Tom Brady. Both were still playing at an elite level and among the top of the league their last years in Indy and NE. One name I think could be added to the elite list, but I don't know as it is slightly before I truly started paying attention to NFL football so I don't know what the opinion was around him in free agency, but Rod Woodson. If i remember correctly, kind of had a rough year of injuries his last year in Pittsburg but was a pretty damn good player. That's it. I'm done. Edit to add: Should have continued to read prior to starting this. See there were already conversations about this before I even started typing. I feel silly. [/QUOTE]
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