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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1066536" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>I have mostly been a spectator to this one, but it seems to me like there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the crux of the "argument" here. </p><p></p><p>On one hand you have folks saying things like "Gute hasn't done well at drafting elite players" </p><p></p><p>And on the other hand you have folks saying things like "Gute is one of the best drafters in the league, top to bottom he has a very good draft class just about every year"</p><p></p><p>But the thing for me is...both of these things can be true. I don't think there's necessarily any inherent conflict between those two statements. <strong>Gute can be a very good drafter overall, AND at the same time have a less convincing track record when it comes to drafting <em>truly</em> elite players.</strong></p><p></p><p>I guess at the end of the day it comes down to your school of thought. I'm not a huge baseball guy, but it seems to me like you could liken Gute to a guy who does a great job of getting on base, but might struggle to hit for power. Other GMs might have more strikeouts, but also produce more extra-base hits. Is one inherently better than the other? I guess it just depends. </p><p></p><p>Ultimately, I *do* think Gutekunst is a very good GM, and is on the whole one of the better drafters in the league. There are not many teams who I would want to trade GMs with (and conversely I think there are MANY teams who would happily swap their GM for ours). It is no small feat to be able to consistently draft guys who are contributing at the rate that Gute's draftees do. For me it is more of a "constructive criticism," if you will - but it feels like if he added just a few more extra-base hits (to continue the baseball analogy <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tongue.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /> ) then that would really push us over the top. That's not saying Gute's a bad drafter or that I want him gone - it's just that last 1%. </p><p></p><p>And I mean, obviously every team wants their GM to find more elite players, so it sounds kind of silly in some ways. But I guess to me that feels like the last piece to take us from "very good" to "great," know what I mean?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1066536, member: 17987"] I have mostly been a spectator to this one, but it seems to me like there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the crux of the "argument" here. On one hand you have folks saying things like "Gute hasn't done well at drafting elite players" And on the other hand you have folks saying things like "Gute is one of the best drafters in the league, top to bottom he has a very good draft class just about every year" But the thing for me is...both of these things can be true. I don't think there's necessarily any inherent conflict between those two statements. [B]Gute can be a very good drafter overall, AND at the same time have a less convincing track record when it comes to drafting [I]truly[/I] elite players.[/B] I guess at the end of the day it comes down to your school of thought. I'm not a huge baseball guy, but it seems to me like you could liken Gute to a guy who does a great job of getting on base, but might struggle to hit for power. Other GMs might have more strikeouts, but also produce more extra-base hits. Is one inherently better than the other? I guess it just depends. Ultimately, I *do* think Gutekunst is a very good GM, and is on the whole one of the better drafters in the league. There are not many teams who I would want to trade GMs with (and conversely I think there are MANY teams who would happily swap their GM for ours). It is no small feat to be able to consistently draft guys who are contributing at the rate that Gute's draftees do. For me it is more of a "constructive criticism," if you will - but it feels like if he added just a few more extra-base hits (to continue the baseball analogy :P ) then that would really push us over the top. That's not saying Gute's a bad drafter or that I want him gone - it's just that last 1%. And I mean, obviously every team wants their GM to find more elite players, so it sounds kind of silly in some ways. But I guess to me that feels like the last piece to take us from "very good" to "great," know what I mean? [/QUOTE]
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