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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1066417" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>Thank you.</p><p></p><p>He's apparently talking with his kid brother every chance he gets, pumping him for advice. He said his brother is giving him tons of tips and suggestions, and I think with his years of experience playing WR plus his 9.24 RAS, he's able to understand that advice and quickly implement it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Honestly, I'm not even grading 24 or 25 in my assessments; the only grade I could reasonably give them is INC. You can't assign a grade until the results are in, and in fact, even any grade you give to 23 at this point has to be with an asterisk. The best we can say at the start of 25 is that all three drafts show encouraging early signs, and by the end of this season we should be closer to some answers - especially on 23.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't call Stokes a miss at all - in fact, I'd call it an A. You can't judge how well Gute did on a pick if the guy is injured; you can only judge the pick on the basis of how he performed when he was on the field. Gute could never have foreseen that he would be injured.</p><p> </p><p>In his rookie year, his QB rating against was 79, and his completion rate was 46% - the 5th best of <em>all </em>cornerbacks in the NFL. Among all rookie DBs, he was first in forced incompletions and pass break ups. That's a remarkable showing for a rookie.</p><p></p><p>In fact, his rookie stats were comparable to (in some cases, <em>better</em> than) Jaire's first season. Before he got hurt, that was an outstanding pick at #29. I think the worst that we can say about him was that he was a push.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I completely support Green Bay's template, because the results over the last 30 years speak for themselves. But I think we have to recognize that it's not with a cost - if a player takes 2 or even 3 year to fully develop, when the time come to either extend him or let him walk, we sometimes have to make a tough decision on the basis of incomplete information. And the more of those guys you have on your roster, the more difficult choices a GM has to make.</p><p></p><p>I think Gute does a very good job at making those calls, but it does make his job harder. And, it is a little frustrating to have to keep letting guys go before they hit their peak years. I know other teams face the same problem, and I really don't know if it's worse for us or better than other teams, so I may be off base here. It just feels like it happens too often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1066417, member: 18006"] Thank you. He's apparently talking with his kid brother every chance he gets, pumping him for advice. He said his brother is giving him tons of tips and suggestions, and I think with his years of experience playing WR plus his 9.24 RAS, he's able to understand that advice and quickly implement it. Honestly, I'm not even grading 24 or 25 in my assessments; the only grade I could reasonably give them is INC. You can't assign a grade until the results are in, and in fact, even any grade you give to 23 at this point has to be with an asterisk. The best we can say at the start of 25 is that all three drafts show encouraging early signs, and by the end of this season we should be closer to some answers - especially on 23. I wouldn't call Stokes a miss at all - in fact, I'd call it an A. You can't judge how well Gute did on a pick if the guy is injured; you can only judge the pick on the basis of how he performed when he was on the field. Gute could never have foreseen that he would be injured. In his rookie year, his QB rating against was 79, and his completion rate was 46% - the 5th best of [I]all [/I]cornerbacks in the NFL. Among all rookie DBs, he was first in forced incompletions and pass break ups. That's a remarkable showing for a rookie. In fact, his rookie stats were comparable to (in some cases, [I]better[/I] than) Jaire's first season. Before he got hurt, that was an outstanding pick at #29. I think the worst that we can say about him was that he was a push. I completely support Green Bay's template, because the results over the last 30 years speak for themselves. But I think we have to recognize that it's not with a cost - if a player takes 2 or even 3 year to fully develop, when the time come to either extend him or let him walk, we sometimes have to make a tough decision on the basis of incomplete information. And the more of those guys you have on your roster, the more difficult choices a GM has to make. I think Gute does a very good job at making those calls, but it does make his job harder. And, it is a little frustrating to have to keep letting guys go before they hit their peak years. I know other teams face the same problem, and I really don't know if it's worse for us or better than other teams, so I may be off base here. It just feels like it happens too often. [/QUOTE]
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