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<blockquote data-quote="Voyageur" data-source="post: 1066272" data-attributes="member: 17953"><p>What I will say is that Gute has found a way to bring the Packers through a difficult series of years where the Packers have seen a huge amount of cap space no longer being with the team. I'm not saying he didn't help to create the problem, but he has stocked the shelves well enough that the wheels haven't come off the bus and we haven't seen a 6 win season or worse. That's rarely the case for teams that create cap problems like the Packers did. They usually fall for years as they try to rebuild and rid themselves of the dead cap.</p><p></p><p>Good drafting or bad drafting, I think you need to look at the record as we've navigated through this period of time and quite honestly, it's pretty impressive. </p><p></p><p>As for the question of players taken in the early rounds, there have been first round picks that have contributed significantly to the team since his arrival. They may not be names that ring out as the finest and best of a draft but when you draft outside the top 20 year after year, you look for players who have a bright future in the league because they can't miss caliber players are usually already gone.</p><p></p><p> Under Brian Gutekunst's leadership as Packers GM, the team has made the following first-round draft picks: 2018: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jaire+Alexander&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAB&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Jaire Alexander</a> (No. 18), 2019: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Rashan+Gary&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAC&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Rashan Gary</a> (No. 12) and <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Darnell+Savage&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAD&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Darnell Savage</a> (No. 21), 2020: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jordan+Love&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAE&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Jordan Love</a> (No. 26), 2021: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Eric+Stokes&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAF&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Eric Stokes</a> (No. 29), 2022: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Quay+Walker&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAG&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Quay Walker</a> (No. 22) and <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Devonte+Wyatt&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAH&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Devonte Wyatt</a> (No. 27), 2023: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Lukas+Van+Ness&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAI&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Lukas Van Ness</a> (No. 13), and 2024: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jordan+Morgan&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAJ&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3" target="_blank">Jordan Morgan</a> (No. 25). </p><p></p><p>You can always look at a player or two that's drafted after them who are much better and wonder why they didn't take them but that's not considering the need the team had at the time the pick was made. Grading a draft simply by asking if the player was better than everyone drafted after them isn't realistic. Teams fill needs if they're smart to stay competitive. The stats junkies rarely see that. All they see is numbers that are meaningless.</p><p></p><p>Solid teams win even when they have off years because they plan for unexpected events. Even grabbing Malik Willis in a trade was genius on the part of Gute. They gave up a 7th round pick which would have been one of the last 6 or 7 players taken in the entire draft. To me, the Packers could claim that Willis was a 7th round pick, added for depth but nobody is talking about that because nobody sees that as a stat. Fact is, it is a stat because it was a genius move. Willis pulled the Packers out of a potential disaster when Love went down with an injury, and now his stock is higher than it's ever been, and if they do decide to trade him, they could get a much better pick than a 7th and that is just how good Gute has done with the draft.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I see the game differently than a lot of people. I see it from a perspective that it takes 11 guys on the field for every play, and you can't afford 5 super stars out there and 6 clowns with floppy shoes. No matter how good those stars are, the clowns are going to cause them to be neutralized because of their ineptness. Anyhow, I'm a team builder, not a star chaser.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voyageur, post: 1066272, member: 17953"] What I will say is that Gute has found a way to bring the Packers through a difficult series of years where the Packers have seen a huge amount of cap space no longer being with the team. I'm not saying he didn't help to create the problem, but he has stocked the shelves well enough that the wheels haven't come off the bus and we haven't seen a 6 win season or worse. That's rarely the case for teams that create cap problems like the Packers did. They usually fall for years as they try to rebuild and rid themselves of the dead cap. Good drafting or bad drafting, I think you need to look at the record as we've navigated through this period of time and quite honestly, it's pretty impressive. As for the question of players taken in the early rounds, there have been first round picks that have contributed significantly to the team since his arrival. They may not be names that ring out as the finest and best of a draft but when you draft outside the top 20 year after year, you look for players who have a bright future in the league because they can't miss caliber players are usually already gone. Under Brian Gutekunst's leadership as Packers GM, the team has made the following first-round draft picks: 2018: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jaire+Alexander&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAB&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Jaire Alexander[/URL] (No. 18), 2019: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Rashan+Gary&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAC&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Rashan Gary[/URL] (No. 12) and [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Darnell+Savage&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAD&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Darnell Savage[/URL] (No. 21), 2020: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jordan+Love&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAE&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Jordan Love[/URL] (No. 26), 2021: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Eric+Stokes&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAF&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Eric Stokes[/URL] (No. 29), 2022: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Quay+Walker&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAG&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Quay Walker[/URL] (No. 22) and [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Devonte+Wyatt&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAH&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Devonte Wyatt[/URL] (No. 27), 2023: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Lukas+Van+Ness&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAI&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Lukas Van Ness[/URL] (No. 13), and 2024: [URL='https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=29b06b32b8894029&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifNCENbLAwpk6Qi7cmIVCTmrNDGnVQ%3A1754213675176&q=Jordan+Morgan&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKnbuXq-6OAxX7HNAFHbgCLiAQxccNegQIBBAJ&mstk=AUtExfADwngYzSiCQGzBsJ_wMxGbFp7tGAuCxglHjh38BkQ0ueWD6z99QpZPxNukp_QDuHW4VBF6adv0Roo2ytjiv-lHwrytW_DX1aZR6VZ36n3rUtucRAzMOUTcIR7nmT-WamJAQ-Xz3NRSueEQa2Hat2KwjGgE1-idGu1NfKHxO6Fp78nlVJV4MHFzfuVOB7R0gVpQxYdhvej9vp0d3IgP0Frezmf8eKQh3gFnX2raAeodOY4Oqt_hsiE_GnRIowc05rUW4-eU0PGjLJfcnXBKyJrIVC1bMMUqP_OCzl5N6LnjNw&csui=3']Jordan Morgan[/URL] (No. 25). You can always look at a player or two that's drafted after them who are much better and wonder why they didn't take them but that's not considering the need the team had at the time the pick was made. Grading a draft simply by asking if the player was better than everyone drafted after them isn't realistic. Teams fill needs if they're smart to stay competitive. The stats junkies rarely see that. All they see is numbers that are meaningless. Solid teams win even when they have off years because they plan for unexpected events. Even grabbing Malik Willis in a trade was genius on the part of Gute. They gave up a 7th round pick which would have been one of the last 6 or 7 players taken in the entire draft. To me, the Packers could claim that Willis was a 7th round pick, added for depth but nobody is talking about that because nobody sees that as a stat. Fact is, it is a stat because it was a genius move. Willis pulled the Packers out of a potential disaster when Love went down with an injury, and now his stock is higher than it's ever been, and if they do decide to trade him, they could get a much better pick than a 7th and that is just how good Gute has done with the draft. Maybe I see the game differently than a lot of people. I see it from a perspective that it takes 11 guys on the field for every play, and you can't afford 5 super stars out there and 6 clowns with floppy shoes. No matter how good those stars are, the clowns are going to cause them to be neutralized because of their ineptness. Anyhow, I'm a team builder, not a star chaser. [/QUOTE]
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