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Packers still are confident in Collins

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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  2. kmac

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    People were concerned about Collins? This is news?
     
  3. Anubis

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    I would think that with all the problems we have on defense, Collins is not anywhere near the top of the list.
     
  4. agopackgo4

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    Yeah, no way Collins is the last thing in the definsive backfield that we need to worry about.
     
  5. porky88

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    Collins has been struggling. More so than Harris and Woodson. People are fast to blame Woodson for some of the mistakes but it's Collins how doesn't close and help Woodson. The safties are the weak point of the defense and then I would rank Poppinga next.

    If I had to go with just players, Collins would be #3 behind Manuel and Poppinga right now.

    With that said Collins has shown he can get the job done. So this could just be a slump right now. Out of all our problems I think Collins has the best chance to work his way out of that list and I think he will.
     
  6. MajicMan

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    Don't know. Maybe this is simplistic, but our D seems to go up or down depending on the pass-rush. I'm not saying we need Kampman to go crazy in order to hang in there, but when Kampman isn't at least pressuring the QB, there's nothing...Well, except on those rare plays Jenkins or Williams gets in there...

    Bottom-line, there's too much time. More consistent pressure, please. This secondary needs help...It can be fine, if it gets it.
     
  7. packedhouse01

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    Collins is a pretty average safety. He hasn't shown me anything at all really.
     
  8. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Think ppl are harder on Woodson instead of Collins because of the expectations and contract Woodson got?
    Somewhat similar to what happened with Ahmad Carroll? He should have been taken in third rd if not later, but since he was a first rd pick ppl expect him to be as good as Chris Gamble.
     
  9. agopackgo4

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    :agree:
     
  10. Yared-Yam

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    Average vs the pass maybe. Maybe a bit below average even.

    But against the run he's awesome. If the opposing team ran and never passed he would make the Pro Bowl.
     
  11. Lare

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    The Packers are still confident in Collins? I suppose they are also still confident in Woodson, Barnett, Poppinga, Harris, Davis, Manuel, Tauscher, Clifton, Franks, Henderson, Green, Martin and Ferguson.

    If even half of these guys were producing we probably wouldn't be at 1-2.
     
  12. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    I see the population in negativille is increasing.
     
  13. majikman

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    What's the population in Homerville?

    Or Truthville?
     
  14. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    For someone who was banned and should still be banned you sure do like to try an make more out of nothing don't ya?

    which were you again? TomAllen? Boyd? or was it P@ck66? Or is it D all the above?

    To show respect to your questions, homerville has 4,200,493 and truthville has 6,032,490. Have a nice day.
     
  15. porky88

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    I agree. As far as these first 3 games go Woodson has been on the same level of Harris. Both of them need to step it up but it's not like Woodson is the cause of the problem. Frankly I think its' the safties right now.

    I agree that Green Bay needs a pass rush but when you think about it every team needs a pass rush. You can have Deion Sanders and Darrell Green at CB and if the QB has all day to throw he'll find the open guy.
     
  16. majikman

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    I don't know what kind of slander you're trying to lay on me Zero, but I have one question for you?

    What's the population of Hooterville?



    (Anyone? 4Packgirl?)

    (Grrrrrrrr...)
     
  17. Zero2Cool

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    I don't know, but lets get there and find out!! lol ... always a good time with hooters!! :)
     

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