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Packers sixth round picks

Discussion in '2015 Draft Archive' started by captainWIMM, May 2, 2015.

  1. captainWIMM

    captainWIMM Cheesehead

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    The Packers have selected FB Aaron Ripkowski, DL Christian Ringo and TE Kennard Backman with their three picks in the sixth round.
     
  2. thisisnate

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    They sure did! Guess we're taking our fat men as UDFAs this year.
     
  3. captainWIMM

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    Ringo could quickly become a third-down specialist and provide an effective interior speed rusher who can cause trouble on passing downs.

    He led all interior and edge defenders in pass rush productivity last year.
     
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  4. thisisnate

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    Yeah, he looks pretty dece for a 6th rounder on paper. I mean the big fatties though. No OL, no interior DL. Surprising given the number of NT types still available come the end of round 6.
     
  5. Luca

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    Indeed!

    PFF: "Christian Ringo leads the defensive interior with a ridiculous 15.8 PRP. Ringo recorded pressure at a more consistent rate than J.J. Watt did. Ringo was able to beat up on the Sunbelt conference as he recorded a pressure in every game and his best game came against instate rival Louisiana-Monroe as he recorded nine pressures."

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    Pros: Consistently provides pressure off the edge and on inside moves. Generates force with a thick core and strong lower body, and is difficulty to leverage because of his low center of gravity. Often commands double teams or help blocks. Non-stop motor and plays to the whistle – will crawl to the quarterback/ball carrier if he has to. Nose for the ball and always attacking. Experience lining up inside and on the edge. Highly productive when healthy. Known as a mature player who takes well to coaching.

    Cons: Lacks ideal height and length to stay out on the edge, and is undersized for an interior lineman. Sloppy build. Rotational defender used to being spelled for a significant number of snaps. Not an instinctive player, more reactionary, especially against the run. Short on speed and endurance in pursuit.

    Overall: Despite finishing sixth among FBS defenders in tackles for loss this past season, Ringo was not invited to the NFL Scouting Combine or any of the well-known all-star games. He surfaced at the College Gridiron Showcase in late January where his weigh-in matched the tape. He is a stout, squatty interior defender who masqueraded as a sack-master his senior season. This is not to say that Ringo cannot generate production at the professional level, but in many cases he was the beneficiary of pressure from his teammates. Still, this speaks to Ringo’s determined, high-effort approach. He has risen from two-star recruit to impact collegian, and now he has an excellent opportunity to catch on as a rotational lineman at the pro level. Ringo’s stature will knock him into the late rounds or priority free agency, but his talent warrants an early-to-mid Day Three draft choice.


    So it seems like he can be a role player.
     
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    Having worked out of Alabama a bit, I have followed Kennard Backman for a couple of years. J.J Nelson certainly was on everyone's mind (and I am sure the Pack scouted him), but I always liked him. Fast for a TE, I personally think he operates at a different speed than what we currently have on the roster. Of course, multiple improvements are needed, but I think giving that environment he had to deal with, he played well. I thought he played as well as any TE I have seen during the Marshall game. Anyway, speaking of the environment, I attached a video which demonstrates what the UAB players had to go through.
     
  7. TeamTundra

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    Ripkowski should help with goal line and short yardage situations. Just finished watching
    His highlights which were ten minutes of him pan caking fools.
     
  8. captainWIMM

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    Here's some info about the three picks:

    Ripkowski had the fourth-highest overall grade against Power 5 teams among FBs, finishing in the Top 3 as a receiver and blocker.

    Ringo was the highest graded interior defender in this class outside of the Power 5 conferences.

    Backman was second among non-Power 5 TEs in this class, with 2.18 Yards per Route Run.
     
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  9. thisisnate

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    Ripkowski doesn't have the same ring to it as Kuhnnnnn, but maybe we can go with Ripppppppp.
     
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  10. SoonerPack

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    I like the kid. Sleepy pick and I like the kids attitude.
     
  11. PFanCan

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    Ringo can long snap, apparently.
     
  12. Eli Haugen

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    I wondered how long it would take to find player who could be long snapper too.
     
  13. Half Empty

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    Brett Goode has obviously been an elite long snapper. Don't know where the dropoff starts for that position, but he's 30. Wouldn't be all the upset if we've got someone on the team who fills a situational or ST role waiting in the wings.
     
  14. captainWIMM

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    The deciding factor in this is that Goode takes away a spot on the active game day roster. If someone else (who is playing defense as well) is capable of long snapping it opens up another spot on the 46.
     
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    Oh, I realize this has always been an issue, mitigated by the fact that doubt anyone can recall two bad snaps in the last eight years. Just meant that I assume he won't beat out Goode but, given that he's got some positional presence, would be nice insurance.
     
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    Not a chance this will happen. The snaps are too important to have a part time snapper. Also they are not going to take away defensive reps in practice from a guy so he can practice long snapping. It's the same reason why a punter is often a holder - so a back up QB doesn't have to use practice time holding.
     
  17. captainWIMM

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    Yeah, you're right about that. I thought that at least some teams in the league use an offensive or defensive player as long snapper but every single team uses a specialist at the position. My bad.
     
  18. Twiddlemylobes

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    Let's just hope Ripkowski being a sleeper pick doesn't turn in to "Rip Van Winkle"
     
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    I've had a feeling the front office has wanted to replace Kuhn for awhile, but no young player could step up and take it.
     
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    Christian Covington, DT, Rice, went a few picks after Ringo...

    Covington was on my wish list - he's bigger than Ringo, played against better competition, and has big upside.

    Was very disappointed to see that Covington was there that late, and the TT spit on him to take another DT.

    Just don't see Ringo producing from the LOS... he's just too limited. Maybe he cuts as the long snapper, but I don't think it makes sense to pass on a guy with upside like Covington just to nab a specialty guy.
     
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    Ringo will offer some inside pass rush in subpackages. Liked the pick.
     
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    That's just it... I don't think he'll offer much on the next level.

    He just doesn't have the size and athleticism to produce much from scimmage in the NFL. I know he had numbers in college, but he played a low level of competition, and when I watched him on tape he got handled quite often by the offensive linemen on that level.

    He always worked hard and hustled, and he has long arms for his size, but he just isn't quick enough or athletic enough to do much after he disengages. If that was the case while playing at the lower level, he likely won't be too competitive against NFL linemen.

    If he had big upside as an interior rusher, he would have gone earlier in the draft. Covington on the other hand, only dropped b/c of injury concerns. It's possible Covington didn't pass our doctors, but not knowing that, assuming he would be healthy - he's a legit NFL prospect.
     
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    Covington didn´t face elite competition playing in the Conference USA on a weekly basis either and ended up with fewer sacks than Ringo. I´m absolutely fine with the Packers selecting Ringo but I don´t expect to get a complete player with a sixth-round pick.
     
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    Covington certainly played against a higher level of competition than Ringo - I didn't say he played against an "elite" level of competition. You're putting words in my mouth.

    Watch the tape... the athleticism and overall game of Covington is far superior to Ringo's. The only unknown would be what kind of recommendation the Packers doctors gave him. It could be very well that our doctors, and/or TT were put off by Covington's injury history. If that's the case? Fine... but in terms of talent and upside, the two really aren't even comparable.



     
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    Covington looks way better than Ringo in these videos. But Covington's one is a highlight tape which probably includes most if his best plays during his college career while Ringo's is a game tape. It's not fair to make an educated guess about their talent level based on it.
     

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