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<blockquote data-quote="IPBprez" data-source="post: 5969" data-attributes="member: 51"><p>One of the guys over at FTO went to the extent of signing up on Finheaven.com to find out how the Dolphin fans appreciated Arturo Freeman ---- With thank you's out the ***** from FTO - I am copying (with advisement) that text so that everyone "here"... can read what's been found out and then comment back....</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">ADVISEMENT: When you get a chance - go over to <a href="http://thefrozentundra.org" target="_blank">http://thefrozentundra.org</a> and have a take.. You'll find it's worth the effort!</span></p><p>=============================================</p><p><span style="color: yellow">Mesage Thread - <em><strong>"Fins fans fry Freeman"</strong></em> by NET</span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">(NET said) - I went to Finheaven.com and asked Dolphin fans what they thought of Arturo Freeman. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">(Their responses)</span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">1.)"He's not really that good, he's definatly no Sharper, but he's about average. He did have 4 picks this year despite not playin much in the begginning of the year." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">2.)"AF is not a bad player, but he's not consistent in his pass coverages, which got him in some trouble around here. He has good speed, knows Bate's D, and hopefully will bossum for you guys...He started all last year, which should help, since he'll be playing in the same D." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">3.)"He didn't start all last year, remember Antuan Edwards was starting for him before he was released." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">4.)"Freeman had a very tuff time ever cracking the starting Lineup. Never lived up to his potential, more suited as a backup IMO." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">5.)"He his a good teammate works very hard and does a lot of little things but he his not a starter but he should have a roster spot in any team in the NFL" </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">6.)"He's a solid starter, but not a really big play maker. That's why we tried to replace him. He seemed to play a lot better under Bates..." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">7.)"He's an average FS who never really got a fair shake here. He's not suited for SS but whenever he's gotten the chance to play at FS he's done solid." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">8.)"Net2, I'm going to be honest because it seems to be what you want, but you're not going to like the answer. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">9.) <strong>"Arturo Freeman is a coach-killer.</strong> He flashes enough skills to tantalize, but the truth is that aside form a few spectacular plays in the years he's been here, he has been just awful at every position he's been tried in. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">He sucked at corner, nickle, dime, safety - you name the position, he's been toasted in it. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">He was one of those Wannstedt guys that hung around because - as I said before - he does have some physical gifts; but no football smarts whatsoever to go with them. At the end of the day, he's just another of Wannstedt's many personnel failures. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">I can tell you that without rejoicing at your team's poor judgment, I will breathe easier when he is signed elsewhere, so there's less chance he might get a call because someone went down with an injury or some such misfortune." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">"Oh please, he was the "Jay Fiedler" of the defense. He was a Wanny guy who should have been cut after year 3. He was a stretch pick when we took him and he finally started his 3rd year and we saw how he was verse the cover 2 and tackling. In came Sammy Knight. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">And to this day Arturo still can't figure out the cover 2 (hello Bengals sunday night game)" </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">10.)"You might want to write a letter, or an email to the Head Coach of every team you play next year, and ask them not to throw it DEEP, then you will be fine. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">He is a good hitter, who once or twice a game, gets caught out of position." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">11.)"I think everyone here respects and likes Jim Bates and what he did with our defense the last few years. Obviously our defense was always one of the better ones in the league. I think it is very telling that whenever Bates had his way Freeman was starting. I think it says alot that Edwards was cut in order to allow Freeman (I know...and Bell) some playing time. Edwards wasn't playing terrible, though he dropped a couple of shore INT's. I know that Knight was brought in to replace Freeman at SS but remember that FS is his actual position. Take it for it's worth but Bates seems to really like him. Being that he has seen him almost every play of his entire NFL career... I think it says something about Freeman. </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">Personal opinion, he's ok. He did better this year in his limited starts than he has in the past. He actually looked like a starter this time around. However, his career is not just starting and he hasn't been able to hold down a starting position. He'll be ok in Green Bay." </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">-------------- </span></p><p><span style="color: yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: yellow">Mixed reactions, at best, from the Miami faithful. FYI (Net's added comment)</span></p><p></p><p>IPBprez comment: If Bates thought enuf of the guy to warrant asking TT <u>& Sherman</u> to bring him in.... then what was it that Bates saw, which Wannstedt didn't see? On top of that, maybe the Coach is the whole deal in this Player's case... If he was starting to gel, with that many catches (INTs) in that short a eriod of time, after Bates took over... then, what does THAT tell you....? Personally, I hope these Dolphin fans are wrong on this one... and what's more, I hope their NEW Coach has a better time of it with the team than ol' Dave (Bears, anyone, anyone?) was able to achieve.</p><p></p><p>Comments?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IPBprez, post: 5969, member: 51"] One of the guys over at FTO went to the extent of signing up on Finheaven.com to find out how the Dolphin fans appreciated Arturo Freeman ---- With thank you's out the ***** from FTO - I am copying (with advisement) that text so that everyone "here"... can read what's been found out and then comment back.... [color=red]ADVISEMENT: When you get a chance - go over to [url="http://thefrozentundra.org"]http://thefrozentundra.org[/url] and have a take.. You'll find it's worth the effort![/color] ============================================= [color=yellow]Mesage Thread - [i][b]"Fins fans fry Freeman"[/b][/i] by NET (NET said) - I went to Finheaven.com and asked Dolphin fans what they thought of Arturo Freeman. (Their responses) 1.)"He's not really that good, he's definatly no Sharper, but he's about average. He did have 4 picks this year despite not playin much in the begginning of the year." 2.)"AF is not a bad player, but he's not consistent in his pass coverages, which got him in some trouble around here. He has good speed, knows Bate's D, and hopefully will bossum for you guys...He started all last year, which should help, since he'll be playing in the same D." 3.)"He didn't start all last year, remember Antuan Edwards was starting for him before he was released." 4.)"Freeman had a very tuff time ever cracking the starting Lineup. Never lived up to his potential, more suited as a backup IMO." 5.)"He his a good teammate works very hard and does a lot of little things but he his not a starter but he should have a roster spot in any team in the NFL" 6.)"He's a solid starter, but not a really big play maker. That's why we tried to replace him. He seemed to play a lot better under Bates..." 7.)"He's an average FS who never really got a fair shake here. He's not suited for SS but whenever he's gotten the chance to play at FS he's done solid." 8.)"Net2, I'm going to be honest because it seems to be what you want, but you're not going to like the answer. 9.) [b]"Arturo Freeman is a coach-killer.[/b] He flashes enough skills to tantalize, but the truth is that aside form a few spectacular plays in the years he's been here, he has been just awful at every position he's been tried in. He sucked at corner, nickle, dime, safety - you name the position, he's been toasted in it. He was one of those Wannstedt guys that hung around because - as I said before - he does have some physical gifts; but no football smarts whatsoever to go with them. At the end of the day, he's just another of Wannstedt's many personnel failures. I can tell you that without rejoicing at your team's poor judgment, I will breathe easier when he is signed elsewhere, so there's less chance he might get a call because someone went down with an injury or some such misfortune." "Oh please, he was the "Jay Fiedler" of the defense. He was a Wanny guy who should have been cut after year 3. He was a stretch pick when we took him and he finally started his 3rd year and we saw how he was verse the cover 2 and tackling. In came Sammy Knight. And to this day Arturo still can't figure out the cover 2 (hello Bengals sunday night game)" 10.)"You might want to write a letter, or an email to the Head Coach of every team you play next year, and ask them not to throw it DEEP, then you will be fine. He is a good hitter, who once or twice a game, gets caught out of position." 11.)"I think everyone here respects and likes Jim Bates and what he did with our defense the last few years. Obviously our defense was always one of the better ones in the league. I think it is very telling that whenever Bates had his way Freeman was starting. I think it says alot that Edwards was cut in order to allow Freeman (I know...and Bell) some playing time. Edwards wasn't playing terrible, though he dropped a couple of shore INT's. I know that Knight was brought in to replace Freeman at SS but remember that FS is his actual position. Take it for it's worth but Bates seems to really like him. Being that he has seen him almost every play of his entire NFL career... I think it says something about Freeman. Personal opinion, he's ok. He did better this year in his limited starts than he has in the past. He actually looked like a starter this time around. However, his career is not just starting and he hasn't been able to hold down a starting position. He'll be ok in Green Bay." -------------- Mixed reactions, at best, from the Miami faithful. FYI (Net's added comment)[/color] IPBprez comment: If Bates thought enuf of the guy to warrant asking TT [u]& Sherman[/u] to bring him in.... then what was it that Bates saw, which Wannstedt didn't see? On top of that, maybe the Coach is the whole deal in this Player's case... If he was starting to gel, with that many catches (INTs) in that short a eriod of time, after Bates took over... then, what does THAT tell you....? Personally, I hope these Dolphin fans are wrong on this one... and what's more, I hope their NEW Coach has a better time of it with the team than ol' Dave (Bears, anyone, anyone?) was able to achieve. Comments? [/QUOTE]
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