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<blockquote data-quote="PackAttack12" data-source="post: 937676" data-attributes="member: 11933"><p>If I'm the Packers, I do everything I can to squeeze the Rodgers lemon for every ounce of juice they can get out of it. In LaFleur's system, I see no reason why Rodgers can't play solid football into his 40's. Cooler heads need to prevail and he needs to get an extension. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Very good post overall, but want to key in on your point about the play makers. When Rodgers has had top notch playmakers (more than one), he's been outstanding. But early 2015 with no Nelson, teams eventually caught on to the Packers after the first few weeks where Rodgers was playing like the early season MVP candidate. I think mid 2015 to mid 2016 was a product of losing Jordy and some other key playmakers in spots, and it taking an extremely long time for he and McCarthy to adjust the offense to a more precision/quick strike offense. That's what got him back on track. </p><p></p><p>And then Nelson leaves, Cobb banged up, pre-Davante emergence, and Rodgers struggled mightily again. It's like I mentioned previously, you have to have really good 1-on-1 receivers for McCarthy's system to work. LaFleur's is much more effective with lesser talent. </p><p></p><p>I think that's what happened more than anything. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think there's absolutely no question that Gutekunst was sort of feeling himself after a couple years of successful talent acquisition and wanted to find "his" guy at quarterback. </p><p></p><p>Some obviously disagree, but I thought it was extremely premature and short sighted. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not going to dive real deep into this, but it's really actually not this simple. Troy Aikman wins and Dan Marino does not. Is it that simple? Of course not. Marino was far superior to Aikman, but Aikman had a team and coaching around him. </p><p></p><p>Rodgers has better overall numbers in the playoffs across the board no matter which metric you decide to use over Brady. Quite literally any individual category, including efficiency statistics. So that obviously leads you to look at the other aspects of their teams (defense, ST's, coaching) of which Brady has had far superior teams in those categories over the years. </p><p></p><p>Here's a little nugget: Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback in NFL history to have 3 playoff losses in games where he threw 3+ passing TD's. </p><p></p><p>He's also the guy whose defenses give up an average of roughly 37 points per game in playoff losses throughout his career. Want to know what happened on the three occasions in which Brady's team gave up 37 or more? They LOST. </p><p></p><p>How about another nugget: Rodgers has never scored less than 20 points in a playoff game. NEVER. Tom Brady has scored 20 or less in playoff games <u><strong>13 times</strong></u>. So again....what does that tell you? </p><p></p><p>I mean, Rodgers was a special teams knuckle head doing his damn job of getting to another Super Bowl. You never see that garbage from a team Brady is on. </p><p></p><p>But I digress. I could spew all kinds of facts out there, but most that just don't like Rodgers go with the lazy, half baked idea of "WeLl oNe GuY wInS aNd tHe oThEr GuY dOeSnTtTtTtTttttttttt".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackAttack12, post: 937676, member: 11933"] If I'm the Packers, I do everything I can to squeeze the Rodgers lemon for every ounce of juice they can get out of it. In LaFleur's system, I see no reason why Rodgers can't play solid football into his 40's. Cooler heads need to prevail and he needs to get an extension. Very good post overall, but want to key in on your point about the play makers. When Rodgers has had top notch playmakers (more than one), he's been outstanding. But early 2015 with no Nelson, teams eventually caught on to the Packers after the first few weeks where Rodgers was playing like the early season MVP candidate. I think mid 2015 to mid 2016 was a product of losing Jordy and some other key playmakers in spots, and it taking an extremely long time for he and McCarthy to adjust the offense to a more precision/quick strike offense. That's what got him back on track. And then Nelson leaves, Cobb banged up, pre-Davante emergence, and Rodgers struggled mightily again. It's like I mentioned previously, you have to have really good 1-on-1 receivers for McCarthy's system to work. LaFleur's is much more effective with lesser talent. I think that's what happened more than anything. I think there's absolutely no question that Gutekunst was sort of feeling himself after a couple years of successful talent acquisition and wanted to find "his" guy at quarterback. Some obviously disagree, but I thought it was extremely premature and short sighted. Not going to dive real deep into this, but it's really actually not this simple. Troy Aikman wins and Dan Marino does not. Is it that simple? Of course not. Marino was far superior to Aikman, but Aikman had a team and coaching around him. Rodgers has better overall numbers in the playoffs across the board no matter which metric you decide to use over Brady. Quite literally any individual category, including efficiency statistics. So that obviously leads you to look at the other aspects of their teams (defense, ST's, coaching) of which Brady has had far superior teams in those categories over the years. Here's a little nugget: Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback in NFL history to have 3 playoff losses in games where he threw 3+ passing TD's. He's also the guy whose defenses give up an average of roughly 37 points per game in playoff losses throughout his career. Want to know what happened on the three occasions in which Brady's team gave up 37 or more? They LOST. How about another nugget: Rodgers has never scored less than 20 points in a playoff game. NEVER. Tom Brady has scored 20 or less in playoff games [U][B]13 times[/B][/U]. So again....what does that tell you? I mean, Rodgers was a special teams knuckle head doing his damn job of getting to another Super Bowl. You never see that garbage from a team Brady is on. But I digress. I could spew all kinds of facts out there, but most that just don't like Rodgers go with the lazy, half baked idea of "WeLl oNe GuY wInS aNd tHe oThEr GuY dOeSnTtTtTtTttttttttt". [/QUOTE]
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