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<blockquote data-quote="Voyageur" data-source="post: 937667" data-attributes="member: 17953">Comparing Rodgers to the league20I agree with the fact that they are probably just playing nice with Rodgers to get past this year, but the idea that the QB alone decides the fate of a football team isn&#039;t really true. You&#039;re only as good as the team around you, and the coaching. That&#039;s not conjecture, that&#039;s fact. You either have the guys who can make plays or you don&#039;t. You either have the coaches that can scheme on both offense and defense, or you don&#039;t. Let&#039;s look at some of Rodgers stats compared to the league.Rodgers career average QB rating: 104.2. Not one year since 2015 where he&#039;s been average, or below average.Not one season since 2015 where his TD ratio to passes has not been one of the highest in the league.Only one season, 2017, where his INT percentage was dead on average in the league. He&#039;s followed that up with four uncanny seasons where the ball is not being intercepted, except in rare circumstances. It also accounts for the number of balls thrown low, to insure defenders can not get the INT in a lot of cases.Rodgers injured in 2017. Broken collar bone. In 2018, it was an injured knee that bothered him the rest of the season. Both had a direct effect on his throwing ability as it took time for him to redevelop his rhythm, and footwork. 2019 was the year that he was regaining those parts of his game. In 2020, the results of that hard work was evident, as he won the MVP award.TD percentages based on passes 2021: League 1.6 Rodgers 6.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2020: League 1.7 Rodgers 9.1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2019: League 1.6 Rodgers 4.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2018: League 1.7 Rodgers 4.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2017: League 1.4 Rodgers 6.7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2016: League 1.5 Rodgers 6.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2015: League 1.6 Rodgers 5.4Percent of passes intercepted:&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2021: League 2.4 Rodgers 1.0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2020: League 2.2 Rodgers 1.0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2019: League 2.3 Rodgers 0.7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2018: League 2.4 Rodgers 0.3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2017: League 2.5 Rodgers 2.5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2016: League 2.3 Rodgers 1.1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2015: League 2.4 Rodgers 1.4QB rating by seasons:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2021: League 91.3 Rodgers 108.8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2020: League 93.6 Rodgers 121.8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2019: League 90.4 Rodgers 95.4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2018: League 92.9 Rodgers 97.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2017: League 86.9 Rodgers 97.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2016: League 89.3 Rodgers 104.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2015: League 90.2 Rodgers 92.7Rodgers Seasonal TD/INT totals: 2021: 27/8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2020: 48/7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2019: 26/6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2018: 25/2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2017: 16/4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2016: 40/5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2015: 31/4The fact is, nobody on this board will probably ever see an QB as efficient, and steady as Rodgers again, in Green Bay, over their lifetime. I&#039;ve been a Packer fan since the 40s, and in all honesty, he is far and away the best of the lot since then. If you think judging him on winning Super Bowl titles that&#039;s not legitimate. A QB can only do so much on the field. The rest of the team has to contribute to make that happen. And, if you compare him to Brady? He may have the better winning record, but Rodgers stats are just as good. The totals aren&#039;t as high, but that&#039;s because Brady has more years of service than Rodgers.Anyhow, just my opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voyageur, post: 937667, member: 17953"] Comparing Rodgers to the league 20 I agree with the fact that they are probably just playing nice with Rodgers to get past this year, but the idea that the QB alone decides the fate of a football team isn't really true. You're only as good as the team around you, and the coaching. That's not conjecture, that's fact. You either have the guys who can make plays or you don't. You either have the coaches that can scheme on both offense and defense, or you don't. Let's look at some of Rodgers stats compared to the league. Rodgers career average QB rating: 104.2. Not one year since 2015 where he's been average, or below average. Not one season since 2015 where his TD ratio to passes has not been one of the highest in the league. Only one season, 2017, where his INT percentage was dead on average in the league. He's followed that up with four uncanny seasons where the ball is not being intercepted, except in rare circumstances. It also accounts for the number of balls thrown low, to insure defenders can not get the INT in a lot of cases. Rodgers injured in 2017. Broken collar bone. In 2018, it was an injured knee that bothered him the rest of the season. Both had a direct effect on his throwing ability as it took time for him to redevelop his rhythm, and footwork. 2019 was the year that he was regaining those parts of his game. In 2020, the results of that hard work was evident, as he won the MVP award. TD percentages based on passes 2021: League 1.6 Rodgers 6.6 2020: League 1.7 Rodgers 9.1 2019: League 1.6 Rodgers 4.6 2018: League 1.7 Rodgers 4.2 2017: League 1.4 Rodgers 6.7 2016: League 1.5 Rodgers 6.6 2015: League 1.6 Rodgers 5.4 Percent of passes intercepted: 2021: League 2.4 Rodgers 1.0 2020: League 2.2 Rodgers 1.0 2019: League 2.3 Rodgers 0.7 2018: League 2.4 Rodgers 0.3 2017: League 2.5 Rodgers 2.5 2016: League 2.3 Rodgers 1.1 2015: League 2.4 Rodgers 1.4 QB rating by seasons: 2021: League 91.3 Rodgers 108.8 2020: League 93.6 Rodgers 121.8 2019: League 90.4 Rodgers 95.4 2018: League 92.9 Rodgers 97.6 2017: League 86.9 Rodgers 97.2 2016: League 89.3 Rodgers 104.2 2015: League 90.2 Rodgers 92.7 Rodgers Seasonal TD/INT totals: 2021: 27/8 2020: 48/7 2019: 26/6 2018: 25/2 2017: 16/4 2016: 40/5 2015: 31/4 The fact is, nobody on this board will probably ever see an QB as efficient, and steady as Rodgers again, in Green Bay, over their lifetime. I've been a Packer fan since the 40s, and in all honesty, he is far and away the best of the lot since then. If you think judging him on winning Super Bowl titles that's not legitimate. A QB can only do so much on the field. The rest of the team has to contribute to make that happen. And, if you compare him to Brady? He may have the better winning record, but Rodgers stats are just as good. The totals aren't as high, but that's because Brady has more years of service than Rodgers. Anyhow, just my opinion. [/QUOTE]

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