Packers @ Cardinals Week 7, 2025

[OldSchool101]

Kyler Murray Injury Uncertainty Impacts Packers vs. Cardinals Odds for NFL Week 7

Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray is dealing with a foot injury that kept him out of the lineup in Week 6 against the Indianapolis Colts, and his statu

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As we move away from the Cats and look forward to the Birds

 

[pacmaniac]

The Cardinals haven't lost a game by more than 4 points. They're just 13 points away from being 6-0.

 

[Thirteen Below]

The Cardinals haven't lost a game by more than 4 points. They're just 13 points away from being 6-0.

You just made me realize - we're 4 points from being 5-0!

 

[El Guapo]

I do not believe that Kyler Murray will be back at QB for the Cardinals, but Jacoby Brissett didn't look terrible.

Marvin Harrison Jr left Sunday's game with a concussion. This is his second concussion in two seasons, so it's possible that they will hold him out a little longer this time? Who knows.

 

[OldSchool101]

the Cardinals haven’t beat a team with a winning record. Although they did play the Colts tough last week.

The Packers have lost several key players in the Interior Defense. Trading Kenny Clark, missing Devonte Wyatt and Lukas Van Ness to minor injuries.

 

[Pugger]

the Cardinals haven’t beat a team with a winning record. Although they did play the Colts tough last week.

The Packers have lost several key players in the Interior Defense. Trading Kenny Clark, missing Devonte Wyatt and Lukas Van Ness to minor injuries.

Have you heard any word on how long Wyatt and/or LVN will be sidelined?

 

[OldSchool101]

Have you heard any word on how long Wyatt and/or LVN will be sidelined?

No but we should have some indicators across the next few days.

Now just my opinion is that Wyatt’s wasn’t going to keep him out past a game or three. He’s already missed 1 week, but he also thankfully had the Bye week, best guess is he’s 50/50 probability this week, but each passing week odds increasing such as 60% by the Steelers game. This is merely conjecture mixed with reading between the premature indicator lines though.


Lukas wasn’t said to not have broken any bones. To suggest they feared a broken foot and needed an MRI isn’t a good sign. A simple guess is he misses 2-3 games until we get a better prognosis. Wyatt coming back becomes more vital imo.

Ideally? GB needs a Rookie (Stack or Brinson) to really step up and showcase their intentions. In his very first NFL start Warren Brinson is stacking good with better. He was the highest graded Packer past Matthew Golden at Cincinnati, which is pretty amazing imo. Get that guy more involved! Colby Wooden seems to be “TJ Slaton like” so far, he’s a good Run Defender. It shows up on the record keeping. #1 Run Defense doesnt happen accidentally.

 

[milani]

the Cardinals haven’t beat a team with a winning record. Although they did play the Colts tough last week.

The Packers have lost several key players in the Interior Defense. Trading Kenny Clark, missing Devonte Wyatt and Lukas Van Ness to minor injuries.

They lost 3 Heartbreakers. Their record could easily be a lot better. They are due to have one go their way.

 

[milani]

I do not believe that Kyler Murray will be back at QB for the Cardinals, but Jacoby Brissett didn't look terrible.

Marvin Harrison Jr left Sunday's game with a concussion. This is his second concussion in two seasons, so it's possible that they will hold him out a little longer this time? Who knows.

Cardinals offensive game plan is different between the 2 QBs.

 

[OldSchool101]

They lost 3 Heartbreakers. Their record could easily be a lot better. They are due to have one go their way.

I expect the Cardinals to play tough. Although I still think GB up and down has the better Roster. It feels like we’re kinda tripping over ourselves, but still producing Wins. I totally agree with Chris Simms in that GB looks disjointed at various moments. One second they look like a Powerhouse, a moment later they look like they are letting the game slip away. However that tells me that once they fire on all cylinders they’re as good as anyone right now. It’s called a deep playoff team finding their way.

 

[OldSchool101]

Interestingly enough I was listening to a peak at how the Colts have surprisingly been great on OL. When I looked at ESPN I noticed that Arizona is 1 of just 3 teams that ranks in the top 16 teams (top 50%) at all 4 major rankings in the Trenches. While Arizona are not world beaters, they are respectable to good across the board.
Arizona
Pass Rush 14th
Run Stop 9th
Pass Block 5th (tied w/GB)
Run Block 16th

Green Bay
Pass Rush 12th
Run Stop 7th
Pass Block 5th (tied w/Arizona)
Run Block 30th

So for reference what next Gen stats uses for OL is 2.5 sec to hold the defender for Pass stats. It’s like a gig of war either the D or O wins each rep logged.
For Run stats they use 3 yards
+does the defender cover his right/left closest lane for less than 3 yards stop If so it’s a Win for Defense or if not it’s a Win for Offense etc.

The Bengals are towards the bottom areas in each category. About bottom 5 overall area ino.
Surprised Detroit was in about bottom 12-14 area overall averaged out.

-Washington is top 5 overall and Dallas top 10 overall. Both are Very good in the trenches

The Packers did play Cleveland who’s #1 Run D #1 Pass D. Then about Top 10-12 overall area.
Arizona is just outside the Top 10-12 area averaged. Very well rounded trenches.

 

[Krabs]

Interestingly enough I was listening to a peak at how the Colts have surprisingly been great on OL. When I looked at ESPN I noticed that Arizona is 1 of just 3 teams that ranks in the top 16 teams (top 50%) at all 4 major rankings in the Trenches. While Arizona are not world beaters, they are respectable to good across the board.
Arizona
Pass Rush 14th
Run Stop 9th
Pass Block 5th (tied w/GB)
Run Block 16th

Green Bay
Pass Rush 12th
Run Stop 7th
Pass Block 5th (tied w/Arizona)
Run Block 30th

So for reference what next Gen stats uses for OL is 2.5 sec to hold the defender for Pass stats. It’s like a gig of war either the D or O wins each rep logged.
For Run stats they use 3 yards
+does the defender cover his right/left closest lane for less than 3 yards stop If so it’s a Win for Defense or if not it’s a Win for Offense etc.

The Bengals are towards the bottom areas in each category. About bottom 5 overall area ino.
Surprised Detroit was in about bottom 12-14 area overall averaged out.

-Washington is top 5 overall and Dallas top 10 overall. Both are Very good in the trenches

The Packers did play Cleveland who’s #1 Run D #1 Pass D. Then about Top 10-12 overall area.
Arizona is just outside the Top 10-12 area averaged. Very well rounded trenches.

That's pretty interesting. Thanks for posting this.

The Packers are actually 2nd in the league in yards per pass attempt. They are pretty consistent. I know they have left some points off the board but I also think they are coming. They are 6th in 1st down percentage too. They're more efficient than people realize or give them credit for. While it currently doesn't show in the stats, they have been running the ball much better the past couple of weeks. The Cards do remind me of the Browns a bit in a sense that they have a solid defense and have a bad record. As with every game, the Pack need to stay focused and control the game.

 

[El Guapo]

As with every game, the Pack need to stay focused and control the game.

They also need to deal with Arizona's heat better than they did in Dallas. The forecast is for 88 degrees and sunny, much warmer than 50s and 60s they are used to in Green Bay right now.

As with every game, build a lead and then run the ball down their throats (though still relatively balanced) to keep our defense rested and ready for the 4th quarter. Control the game as you perfectly stated.

 

[OldSchool101]

That's pretty interesting. Thanks for posting this.

The Packers are actually 2nd in the league in yards per pass attempt. They are pretty consistent. I know they have left some points off the board but I also think they are coming. They are 6th in 1st down percentage too. They're more efficient than people realize or give them credit for. While it currently doesn't show in the stats, they have been running the ball much better the past couple of weeks. The Cards do remind me of the Browns a bit in a sense that they have a solid defense and have a bad record. As with every game, the Pack need to stay focused and control the game.

Sure. Again NexGen is just one of many recording angles. Kinda gives a general feel of areas of strength or weakness more than anything.

Still kinda waiting for GB to get back to that Week 1 or more complete game. I did like how Hafley moved Parsons around last week, that’s what I was thinking might work. Having Parson move around is best and especially if he lines up 1 area, then moves over, then Stunts around the backside of another iDL. I’d keep him moving around so the Cardinals don’t know where he’s coming from.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I did like how Hafley moved Parsons around last week, that’s what I was thinking might work. Having Parson move around is best and especially if he lines up 1 area, then moves over, then Stunts around the backside of another iDL. I’d keep him moving around so the Cardinals don’t know where he’s coming from.

I'm starting to think it doesn't matter how much they move him around, if the league is going to allow him to be bearhugged on every play. This is getting completely out of hand.

 

[milani]

I'm starting to think it doesn't matter how much they move him around, if the league is going to allow him to be bearhugged on every play. This is getting completely out of hand.

Kind of like they did not like seeing him leave Dallas.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The Cardinals attacked the middle of the field with quick passes against the Colts. They moved the ball up and down the field all game against the Colts. Brisette played very well even with Harison out.

McBride is going to have a monster game. If you play fantasy football, he's going to rack up a lot of points this week. The Packers just don't defend the middle of the field very well even with LB's that are faster than any TE.

Margin of error is tight because of the mediocre play. To win the game, the Packers are going to have to have no turnovers and few penalties. The Packers offense will have to outscore the Cardinals in high scoring game with the Packers defense banged up and playing very poorly.

 

[Half Empty]

Sure. Again NexGen is just one of many recording angles. Kinda gives a general feel of areas of strength or weakness more than anything.

Still kinda waiting for GB to get back to that Week 1 or more complete game. I did like how Hafley moved Parsons around last week, that’s what I was thinking might work. Having Parson move around is best and especially if he lines up 1 area, then moves over, then Stunts around the backside of another iDL. I’d keep him moving around so the Cardinals don’t know where he’s coming from.

If the other guys are allowed to violate the rules when Parsons is charging, does it really make any difference where he starts?

 

[El Guapo]

If the other guys are allowed to violate the rules when Parsons is charging, does it really make any difference where he starts?

This is old news. Parsons' complaint about the league favoring offense over defense is like complaining that news networks have political biases. We all know this, it's not how it should be, but complaining about it is pointless.

If Micah Parsons and others really want to do something, they need to work with the union during CBA negotiations to make real changes.

 

[OldSchool101]

This is old news. Parsons' complaint about the league favoring offense over defense is like complaining that news networks have political biases. We all know this, it's not how it should be, but complaining about it is pointless.

If Micah Parsons and others really want to do something, they need to work with the union during CBA negotiations to make real changes.

Hey on that note. Last night there was a play last night where the OL hooked the Pass Rusher almost exactly like what happened to Parsons. It was immediately called a flag for Holding.
Btw there were lesser flags for calls that were holding but that were really behind the play (the RB was already past that area and it was impossible that the hold affected the play). One erased a long TD run and had zero chance of affecting that TD.

I know we’re quick to label everything as a conspiracy, however more and more I’m noticing Parsons gets held and they seemingly ignore it. In the first one or two I discounted it to bad luck. There’s been around 4-5 holds on Parsons that were really egregious level and zero were called. 0/5 Someone would have to really try to convince me that its just a long string of multiple officiating crews who don’t pay attention to games. I’m not sure I buy it.

IMO if the hold isn’t deemed to affect the play whatsoever. Such as an OL holding but the RB Is already 5 yards past them? They should pick up the flag. Meaning I’m not a flag happy fan. I prefer to let them play, but an arm bar across someone’s neck that clearly beat you outside the frame of your shoulders needs to stop yesterday. The sport is too good pretending to give excuses for multiple missed calls. Have the booth initiate a play stop if it continues. In modern football with our technology? the officiating should be much more advanced. Technology can take a snap shot of my face in a toll booth and apply it to 200,000,000 drivers.. but it can’t recognize an egregious hands to the face or hooking a players neck? I don’t but it (not suggesting you agree or disagree just a comment directed at the Billion Dollar football league with just a hundred dollar technology)

 

[milani]

The Cardinals attacked the middle of the field with quick passes against the Colts. They moved the ball up and down the field all game against the Colts. Brisette played very well even with Harison out.

McBride is going to have a monster game. If you play fantasy football, he's going to rack up a lot of points this week. The Packers just don't defend the middle of the field very well even with LB's that are faster than any TE.

Margin of error is tight because of the mediocre play. To win the game, the Packers are going to have to have no turnovers and few penalties. The Packers offense will have to outscore the Cardinals in high scoring game with the Packers defense banged up and playing very poorly.

The Packers play a defense that keeps everything in front. They depend on stopping the run and the pass rush of the front 4. They do not give up the big play that gambling defenses do. They had kept both the Bengals and Cowboys at bay for the first 30 minutes. Veteran QBs in Prescott and Flacco adjusted well. But they cannot expect to win giving up 12 play drives unless they end in FGs. The youth factor is the Achilles of the Packers. Can they avoid a lot of penalties? Can they run the ball? Can they keep their D on the sideline?

 

[DoURant]

The heard the officiating crew for the Cardinals game is the top or one of the top crews in penalties called. Could be a long, no flow game, but also hoping Parsons gets a few holding calls in his favor for once.

 

[OldSchool101]

. But they cannot expect to win giving up 12 play drives unless they end in FGs. The youth factor is the Achilles of the Packers. Can they avoid a lot of penalties? Can they run the ball? Can they keep their D on the sideline?

I’d add to that can we win the turnover battle? This has been a glaring issue. We should be +10 by now. Time to turn into a takeaway machine.
This Team is too talented to give other teams help.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The Packers play a defense that keeps everything in front. They depend on stopping the run and the pass rush of the front 4. They do not give up the big play that gambling defenses do. They had kept both the Bengals and Cowboys at bay for the first 30 minutes. Veteran QBs in Prescott and Flacco adjusted well. But they cannot expect to win giving up 12 play drives unless they end in FGs. The youth factor is the Achilles of the Packers. Can they avoid a lot of penalties? Can they run the ball? Can they keep their D on the sideline?

Teams are happy to take 7 to 10 yard passes in the middle of the field all the way down the field, especially to the TE. Where is Wayne Simmons when you need him? I remember when he'd line up over the TE and totally disrupt his break off the LOS. Today's game just isn't as physical as it used to be.

 

[OldSchool101]

Teams are happy to take 7 to 10 yard passes in the middle of the field all the way down the field, especially to the TE. Where is Wayne Simmons when you need him? I remember when he'd line up over the TE and totally disrupt his break off the LOS. Today's game just isn't as physical as it used to be.

Not sure where all that talk about us not covering the TE is coming from? Our LB’s/Box Defenders held Cincinatti TE’s to 9/11 36 yards and 1 TD.

Tucker Kraft outperformed their entire TE room 2/2–43yds 1 TD. 21.5 yards per target

So if that’s your recipe for success? Throw to your TE all you want for 3.27 yards per target. It’s just a matter of time before an Offense loses with that formula. Quite frankly, that and 55 yards of total Rushing is what likely cost The Bengals this game. In most games if you do that dinc n dunk n can’t run? you’d also expect more penalties or turnovers, it’s just nature of the beast. imo Cinci was fortunate they played clean (or got a little help from the Refs) and their WR’s caught nearly everything (other than Iosivas 1/4 —5yards) because this Game could’ve gotten out of hand very quickly.