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Packers biggest need

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    Actually 4, I suddenly remembered another.
     
  2. 7thFloorRA

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    I was trying to be.

    Tramon is terrible. He is a step late and out of position every play and they own him....and he can't tackle. Casey is young and was good for a rookie and shields seems to get it done most of the time. Tramon and the rb/te on the linebackers are where teams get their yards.
     
  3. HyponGrey

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    It'll take Sherrod a year to readjust and overtake him.
     
  4. CHIpackFAN

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    Draft Barrett Jones in the first round. He should be there when we pick. Not many teams will pick a center in Rd. 1. Release Hawk, keep Finley. Can't lose jennings and finley at the same time. Put finley at WR.
     
  5. 7thFloorRA

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    Finley seems to have shut up some. He can stay for now because DJ williams can't stay healthy and idk who they may draft.
     
  6. CHIpackFAN

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    I think that this should be a draft the TT has to do something big, i.e trades to move up and make a splash pick. We have a lot of players in place now. I think we have a good "farm system". he needs to make a statement this offseason.
     
  7. HyponGrey

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    There ARE teams that will pick a Guard, his more natural position. Release Hawk and pay all that penalty?
     
  8. TCHickman24

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    Winner winner, chicken dinner.
    This D seems too soft for my liking. As a matter of fact, this whole team, coaches included, seems a bit soft.
     
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  9. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    So change your jersey and be happy
     
  10. NelsonsLongCatch

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    How much is the cap hit?
     
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    merged two threads....we dont need a team need thread and a team needs from draft and fa
     
  13. HyponGrey

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    We have 2 too many then.
    10.5 mil, goes down to 7 in 2014 if memory serves. 3.5 for every year left
     
  14. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Wonder if he'll agree to a MASSIVE pay cut?
     
  15. adambr2

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    Statistically, no team other than Seattle was better defending the pass than us this year. I wouldn't mind us looking at a safety, but I don't think corner is the problem.

    Shields is really emerging, as is Hayward. Tramon definitely isn't elite anymore but let's look at his whole body of work this year, not just 2 out of the last 3 games. He hasn't had a bad year.

    House is another guy, that if healthy, could be a solid corner. #1 to #4, I think we've got a pretty solid group. I'm fine with looking for a flyer project corner with a late pick, but to me there are much bigger needs on this team than corner to look at addressing CB with a first day pick.

    Fundamentally, we have to get better. I don't know if that starts with the coaching, or aggressive players, or what. We don't tackle well, we don't force fumbles, we don't create turnovers that we rely on to be successful.
     
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  16. HyponGrey

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    2012: $4.4 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2013: $4.9 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2014: $4.9 million (+ $800,000 roster bonus), 2015: $5.4 million (+ $800,000 roster bonus), 2016: Free Agent
    Age as of end of 2012 season: 29.
     
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    I'm having trouble believing that. I'm not saying you're lying, but the amount of 3rd and long plays. Team were eating us up in the middle of the field and consistently bombing the ball down the field.
     
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    3rd in Pass D 11th in Run D and 9th Overall D
    8th Pass O, 10th Rush O, 8th Overall O

    wait, that's post season my bad
     
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    11th in Pass D 17th in Run D and 11th Overall D
    9th Pass O, 20th Rush O, 13th Overall O

    Regular season
     
  20. 12theTruth

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    Coaching wise the biggest need is to remove Campen followed close behind by a replacement for Dom Capers

    Position wise I'd say we need a linebacker who has an intimidating presence in coverage and against the run. A backer who has good lateral quickness and can intimidate a RB, WR, or TE which enters into his territory.

    Wayne Simmons and Nick Barnett were probably the closest Packer players to match to this over the last 20 years.
     
  21. NelsonsLongCatch

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    I think a lack of a pass rush is more to blame for those 3rd-and-long conversions. For the past two years, CM3 is the only consistent pass rusher on the defense. If the pass rush gets to the quarterback before the receiver has a chance to run 8 or 10 yards, it makes converting a 3rd-and-long much harder.

    I would have liked to have seen a full year of Nick Perry. The only move we saw this year out of him was a bull rush. We know he can play the run, but does he have the tools to be a completed OLB in the 3-4?
     
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    Physical? Yes. Needs technique.
     
  23. NelsonsLongCatch

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    A pay cut might be the smartest move. Hawk is just not good enough to take up that much cap space without justifying the money with his play. TT is good at "restructuring" contracts. Even without a change to the contract, I can't see the Packers paying the $800k roster bonus in 2014.
     
  24. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Yeah. He needs to show that he isn't a traditional 4-3 defensive end and more of an OLB. Does he have more than one pass move? Can he cover a tight end?
     
  25. HyponGrey

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    2014 is the first year it's reasonable to cut him, that's why the bonus jumps.
     

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