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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 882381"><p>I agree with much of that but as you point out, since personnel groupings don't tell you where they line up it does make them obsolete. These grouping were created at a time when RBs always lined up in the backfield, TEs always lined up in-line. Further, 2x formations wsere HB/TB and FB, both running the ball. There is no such thing as 2x anymore except for a few teams that give a FB 20 or 30 carries per season. These positional designations led me into a debate over whether a FB is a RB when clearly that is not the case anymore. </p><p></p><p>Further, I'd point to Ervin as a prime example of using positional designations as stated on the roster sheet. For all intents and purposes, it should say "WR" for Ervin. How many of hs 42 snaps have been taken out of the backfield? One? Two? </p><p></p><p>So far this season, the Packers "TE" snap count is 146% with a 226% "WR" snap count. Those numbers don't quite get you to 11. Move Ervin to the WR count for 254% and you get something that makes. And that is comparable to LaFleur's 152% TE/FB and 245% WR with the 2018 Titans.</p><p></p><p>And this year is barely distinguishable than last year when the "TE" and "FB" snap count was 143% and "WR" at 256% including Ervin, though he did run the ball a couple of times in the playoffs.</p><p></p><p>The 2018 McCarthy Packers had "TE" and "FB" combined snap count of 129% and a 272% "WR" snap count. While the difference is quite meaningful it is not as dramatic as some would have it---swapping out a "WR" for a "TE" on about 17 or 18% of snaps which might be skewed upward by a high run mix against Detroit that we might not see against better competition or when trailing in the second half. There was a lot of late trailing in 2018.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are more 7 man lines, or 6 or 7 with a fullback in Week 1 with Deguara in that role, a la the LaFleur Titans. But if all you looked at were those snap counts you wouldn't see that there is more spread in this Packer offense than in that Titans offense.</p><p></p><p>The talk of this not being a LaFleur offense, rather a LaFleur/Rodgers offense or simply a "Packers offense" isn't just for PR consumption. LaFluer's stated confidence in Rodgers having control of the field is also not a PR gesture. Rodgers is not Mariota. The Packers other "skill position" players have a quite different skill set mix that in Tennessee in 2018. It's a good thing LaFleur isn't trying to stick round pegs into some preconceived theoretical square holes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 882381"] I agree with much of that but as you point out, since personnel groupings don't tell you where they line up it does make them obsolete. These grouping were created at a time when RBs always lined up in the backfield, TEs always lined up in-line. Further, 2x formations wsere HB/TB and FB, both running the ball. There is no such thing as 2x anymore except for a few teams that give a FB 20 or 30 carries per season. These positional designations led me into a debate over whether a FB is a RB when clearly that is not the case anymore. Further, I'd point to Ervin as a prime example of using positional designations as stated on the roster sheet. For all intents and purposes, it should say "WR" for Ervin. How many of hs 42 snaps have been taken out of the backfield? One? Two? So far this season, the Packers "TE" snap count is 146% with a 226% "WR" snap count. Those numbers don't quite get you to 11. Move Ervin to the WR count for 254% and you get something that makes. And that is comparable to LaFleur's 152% TE/FB and 245% WR with the 2018 Titans. And this year is barely distinguishable than last year when the "TE" and "FB" snap count was 143% and "WR" at 256% including Ervin, though he did run the ball a couple of times in the playoffs. The 2018 McCarthy Packers had "TE" and "FB" combined snap count of 129% and a 272% "WR" snap count. While the difference is quite meaningful it is not as dramatic as some would have it---swapping out a "WR" for a "TE" on about 17 or 18% of snaps which might be skewed upward by a high run mix against Detroit that we might not see against better competition or when trailing in the second half. There was a lot of late trailing in 2018. Yes, there are more 7 man lines, or 6 or 7 with a fullback in Week 1 with Deguara in that role, a la the LaFleur Titans. But if all you looked at were those snap counts you wouldn't see that there is more spread in this Packer offense than in that Titans offense. The talk of this not being a LaFleur offense, rather a LaFleur/Rodgers offense or simply a "Packers offense" isn't just for PR consumption. LaFluer's stated confidence in Rodgers having control of the field is also not a PR gesture. Rodgers is not Mariota. The Packers other "skill position" players have a quite different skill set mix that in Tennessee in 2018. It's a good thing LaFleur isn't trying to stick round pegs into some preconceived theoretical square holes. [/QUOTE]
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