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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1036927" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>Yeah, I feel kind of badly popping his bubble.Probably won'tb take too much of the wind out of his sails, though - he seems indefatigably optimistic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The NFL woudn't allow it; it's completely illegal under the rules. Rodgers briefly tried the same thing with the Jets last year, and the idea got shot dead in the street real quick.</p><p></p><p>I couldn't find any one article that listed all the red flags scouts and analysts saw (or thought they saw), but I did find 3 articles that (between them) listed almost everything I mentioned.</p><p></p><p>There are also articles I didn't link, that said these things but also added that Williams initially demanded that part of his salary be paid in forgivable loans, which the NFL said no chance. He then asked if he could be paid through an LLC - as a corporation, rather than as an individual, so hs would bne taxed at a much klower rate. This is legal, and it's a trick my wife often uses on her contract gigs. The forgivable loan angle is legal too, but the NFL said to forget it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-caleb-williams-looking-loophole-rookie-wage-scale[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://firstroundmock.com/2024/04/former-nfl-scout-100-chance-caleb-williams-is-a-bust/#:~:text=Expect%20ball%20placement%20and%20ball,injury%20risk%20in%20the%20NFL.[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/insider_addresses_alleged_caleb_williams_red_flags/s1_13132_40243224[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I couldn't find anywhere that listed the exact times for each quarterback, so I couldn't directly compare. But DraftBuzz ranked the prospects on a 0-100 scale, on two pages. The first page showed the Top 20 pospects, and Caleb did not make that page. I keep trying to pull up Page 2, but it refuses to load. The bottom player on that 1-20 list was given a score of 73 for his release time; by comparison, Bo Nix scored 90, and Drake Maye, Penix, Daniels, Milton, and even Reed and Rattler were in the 80s.</p><p></p><p>But if you look at Caleb's personal profile, it shows he scored 73 - behind even a couple of guys who weren't even drafted (by comnparison, Michael Pratt scored 79 on his personal profile, and was ranked #15 in that category).</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/stats/RSP/QB/1/2024[/URL]</p><p></p><p>So, yeah... clearly tons of potential, and he could be a home run. But he's got some fundamentals that are far short of NFL level, and we'll see how he's doing wiith that in a week and a half, when the Bears play the Texans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1036927, member: 18006"] Yeah, I feel kind of badly popping his bubble.Probably won'tb take too much of the wind out of his sails, though - he seems indefatigably optimistic. The NFL woudn't allow it; it's completely illegal under the rules. Rodgers briefly tried the same thing with the Jets last year, and the idea got shot dead in the street real quick. I couldn't find any one article that listed all the red flags scouts and analysts saw (or thought they saw), but I did find 3 articles that (between them) listed almost everything I mentioned. There are also articles I didn't link, that said these things but also added that Williams initially demanded that part of his salary be paid in forgivable loans, which the NFL said no chance. He then asked if he could be paid through an LLC - as a corporation, rather than as an individual, so hs would bne taxed at a much klower rate. This is legal, and it's a trick my wife often uses on her contract gigs. The forgivable loan angle is legal too, but the NFL said to forget it. [URL unfurl="true"]https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-caleb-williams-looking-loophole-rookie-wage-scale[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://firstroundmock.com/2024/04/former-nfl-scout-100-chance-caleb-williams-is-a-bust/#:~:text=Expect%20ball%20placement%20and%20ball,injury%20risk%20in%20the%20NFL.[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/insider_addresses_alleged_caleb_williams_red_flags/s1_13132_40243224[/URL] I couldn't find anywhere that listed the exact times for each quarterback, so I couldn't directly compare. But DraftBuzz ranked the prospects on a 0-100 scale, on two pages. The first page showed the Top 20 pospects, and Caleb did not make that page. I keep trying to pull up Page 2, but it refuses to load. The bottom player on that 1-20 list was given a score of 73 for his release time; by comparison, Bo Nix scored 90, and Drake Maye, Penix, Daniels, Milton, and even Reed and Rattler were in the 80s. But if you look at Caleb's personal profile, it shows he scored 73 - behind even a couple of guys who weren't even drafted (by comnparison, Michael Pratt scored 79 on his personal profile, and was ranked #15 in that category). [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/stats/RSP/QB/1/2024[/URL] So, yeah... clearly tons of potential, and he could be a home run. But he's got some fundamentals that are far short of NFL level, and we'll see how he's doing wiith that in a week and a half, when the Bears play the Texans. [/QUOTE]
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