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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 823022" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>LOL....I get confused at times as well and originally used both Spotrac and Over The Cap as well. I quickly found out that for whatever reason, it was easier to stick to one and I just happened to understand Spotrac better.</p><p></p><p>Now whether I got those numbers right in regards to Perry, I will have to go back and look.</p><p></p><p>Someone could make some money on a site called "Salary Cap for dummies", because I would use it. I am amazed at all the articles you read on the same guy and most have different numbers, so we aren't the only ones trying to nail down this concept. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Edit: Yes...cash and cap are 2 different things. The Cap hit for 2019 for Perry if they kept him, which means they have to pay him his salary + roster and workout bonuses is cash paid to him (cash hit) plus the prorated share of his dead cap (signing bonus), which has already been paid to him and equals $18.5M over 5 years, or $3.7M/year. That $3.7 can be taken in each year that he is on the roster, but as soon as he isn't, whatever remains unaccounted for is an accelerated and immediate hit for the coming season. If he is kept until June 1, they can cut him then and spread the remaining 3 year dead cap ($11.1M) over 2 years. But to do that, they would have to pay him his 3/15 roster bonus of $5.1375 M + workout bonus of $400K, so unless they plan on being super tight to the cap, makes more sense to me to save the $5.5375 M he is due after 3/15 and just take the full dead cap hit of $11.1M now.</p><p></p><p>Also, don't forget, if Perry ends up on the final 53 man roster, he gets paid his annual base salary, which for this year is on the books for $5.2M.</p><p></p><p>In looking at this contract, I think Ball and the Packers thought it would end up being at least a 3 year deal. I say that because getting out in this, the 3rd year, is pretty pricey for them.</p><p></p><p>Lots's of numbers in there, so sorry if I didn't explain, at least the way I read it, very well <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT 2: I looked at Over The Cap and remembered what confused me. The "per game roster bonus". For Perry, that is $600K/game which over 16 games is equal to $9.6M. Which is roughly his "roster bonus" + "Base Salary"-"workout bonus". Now maybe if he is cut mid season, he doesn't get paid all of the $9.6M, but I believe it is still fully counted against the Packers cap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 823022, member: 7261"] LOL....I get confused at times as well and originally used both Spotrac and Over The Cap as well. I quickly found out that for whatever reason, it was easier to stick to one and I just happened to understand Spotrac better. Now whether I got those numbers right in regards to Perry, I will have to go back and look. Someone could make some money on a site called "Salary Cap for dummies", because I would use it. I am amazed at all the articles you read on the same guy and most have different numbers, so we aren't the only ones trying to nail down this concept. :D Edit: Yes...cash and cap are 2 different things. The Cap hit for 2019 for Perry if they kept him, which means they have to pay him his salary + roster and workout bonuses is cash paid to him (cash hit) plus the prorated share of his dead cap (signing bonus), which has already been paid to him and equals $18.5M over 5 years, or $3.7M/year. That $3.7 can be taken in each year that he is on the roster, but as soon as he isn't, whatever remains unaccounted for is an accelerated and immediate hit for the coming season. If he is kept until June 1, they can cut him then and spread the remaining 3 year dead cap ($11.1M) over 2 years. But to do that, they would have to pay him his 3/15 roster bonus of $5.1375 M + workout bonus of $400K, so unless they plan on being super tight to the cap, makes more sense to me to save the $5.5375 M he is due after 3/15 and just take the full dead cap hit of $11.1M now. Also, don't forget, if Perry ends up on the final 53 man roster, he gets paid his annual base salary, which for this year is on the books for $5.2M. In looking at this contract, I think Ball and the Packers thought it would end up being at least a 3 year deal. I say that because getting out in this, the 3rd year, is pretty pricey for them. Lots's of numbers in there, so sorry if I didn't explain, at least the way I read it, very well ;) EDIT 2: I looked at Over The Cap and remembered what confused me. The "per game roster bonus". For Perry, that is $600K/game which over 16 games is equal to $9.6M. Which is roughly his "roster bonus" + "Base Salary"-"workout bonus". Now maybe if he is cut mid season, he doesn't get paid all of the $9.6M, but I believe it is still fully counted against the Packers cap. [/QUOTE]
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