Packer drafts from the past.

OP
OP
P

Packerlifer

Cheesehead
Joined
Sep 4, 2008
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
118
An eyewitness to history, Pat Peppler was the Packers' personnel man for Lombardi, Bengtson and Devine. This part of a series with him by Cliff Christl of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel before his death has some interesting stories to tell about the Packers' drafts from about 1964-72. The glory years and the gory years.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-cliffs-notes/article-1/Pat-Peppler-Part-III-The-Draft-Picks/91c090a4-d6ba-4af6-8949-4cd074ee14fe


http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/lofton-anderson-were-talented-co-picks-in-1978-packers-draft-b99483120z1-301126661.html

Vince Lombardi's approach to building a team in his first year: Quarterback and defense: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/164347756.html

Lombardi let a former Packers' first round qb selection get away during his first year. Things worked out all right but the Italian coach might have had an Italian quarterback running his team in the 1960's: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/230743201.html

Another first pick at qb that might have changed Packers' history: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/44402482.html.
 
Last edited:
OP
OP
P

Packerlifer

Cheesehead
Joined
Sep 4, 2008
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
118
The best first round picks in Packers' history, by position:

QB: Aaron Rodgers-2005
RB: John Brockington-1971 (Paul Hornung was selected with the "bonus pick" in 1957, not the Packers' regular No. 1.)
You must be logged in to see this image or video!
(Hon. mention: Tom Moore-1960, Donny Anderson-1965.) http://www.jsonline.com/packerinsider/moore-enjoyed-green-bay-titles-9u2u4ga-133657898.html
http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...f-course/d9732842-bd95-45fe-885e-1ac2742d20e3
WR: James Lofton-1978, Sterling Sharpe-1988 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82a3ad50/Films-Encore-James-Lofton
You must be logged in to see this image or video!
TE: Ron Kramer-1957 (Honorable mention: Rich McGeorge-1970, Bubba Franks-2000.)
You must be logged in to see this image or video!
C: Clayton Tonnemaker-1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Tonnemaker
G: Gale Gillingham- 1966 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/128848353.html
T: Ken Ruettgers-1985 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ruettgers-helps-nfl-players-move-on-3m3e8r8-135805753.html

DE: Ezra Johnson & Mike Butler-1977, http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...e-DE-duo/c82ea556-b107-4a65-a420-e165a41e1306 Vonnie Holliday-1998 http://www.packers.com/media-lounge...bring_it/b1468eb1-2657-45e6-b527-f3c7446db955
DT: Mike McCoy-1970, B.J. Raji-2009 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...ckers-in-a-big-way-b99565911z1-324005711.html
OLB: Dave Robinson-1963, Clay Matthews-2009 (Honorable mention: Fred Carr-1968, John Anderson-1978, Tony Bennett-1990, Wayne Simmons-1993)
M/ILB: Nick Barnett-2003
CB: Herb Adderley-1961, Willie Buchanon-1972
S: HaHa Clinton Dix-2014
 
Last edited:

PackerDNA

Cheesehead
Joined
Jun 8, 2014
Messages
6,428
Reaction score
1,499
That's an impressive job of research, Packerlifer.
They've done pretty well at OLB, heh?
 
H

HardRightEdge

Guest
The best first round picks in Packers' history, by position:

QB: Aaron Rodgers-2005
RB: John Brockington-1971 (Paul Hornung was selected with the "bonus pick" in 1957, not the Packers' regular No. 1.)
You must be logged in to see this image or video!
WR: James Lofton-1978, Sterling Sharpe-1988
TE: Ron Kramer-1957 (Honorable mention: Rich McGeorge-1970, Bubba Franks-2000.)
C: Clayton Tonnemaker-1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Tonnemaker
G: Gale Gillingham- 1966 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/128848353.html
T: Ken Ruettgers-1985 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ruettgers-helps-nfl-players-move-on-3m3e8r8-135805753.html

DE: Ezra Johnson & Mike Butler-1977, Vonnie Holliday-1998
DT: Mike McCoy-1970, B.J. Raji-2009
OLB: Dave Robinson-1963, Clay Matthews-2009 (Honorable mention: Fred Carr-1968, John Anderson-1978, Tony Bennett-1990, Wayne Simmons-1993.)
M/ILB: Nick Barnett-2003
CB: Herb Adderley-1961, Willie Buchanon-1972
S: HaHa Clinton Dix-2014
You should add Cecil Isbell in 1938 at least as an honorable mention. It was a different game, but "quarterback" would be the best fit.

It's hard to think Barnett was the best ILB 1st round pick over 80 years, but that may be the case. There just were not many of them. Some things never change. ;) I have enough of a distaste for Barnett's game, and enough respect for what Hawk did for the couple of years through 2010, to give Hawk the nod if not for the short period of good play. I'd be presumptively inclined to install Ragland before he took a snap. :eek:

Clinton-Dix after 2 seasons? I'd take Teague's 3 years instead, even if he did jump to Dallas in free agency. That may or may not be worth a revisit a couple years down the road.
 
OP
OP
P

Packerlifer

Cheesehead
Joined
Sep 4, 2008
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
118
You should add Cecil Isbell in 1938 at least as an honorable mention. It was a different game, but "quarterback" would be the best fit.

It's hard to think Barnett was the best ILB 1st round pick over 80 years, but that may be the case. There just were not many of them. Some things never change. ;) I have enough of a distaste for Barnett's game, and enough respect for what Hawk did for the couple of years through 2010, to give Hawk the nod if not for the short period of good play. I'd be presumptively inclined to install Ragland before he took a snap. :eek:

Clinton-Dix after 2 seasons? I'd take Teague's 3 years instead, even if he did jump to Dallas in free agency. That may or may not be worth a revisit a couple years down the road.


I had forgotten about Teague being a first round pick. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TeagGe20.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ClinHa00.htm

Hawk wasn't originally drafted as a middle or inside linebacker so that's why I didn't put him there. That sort of leaves Barnett by default. Of course Herb Adderley was originally drafted as a running back and switched to cornerback almost accidentally so Hawk probably deserves a ranking as well.
 
Last edited:

Curly Calhoun

Cheesehead
Joined
Feb 23, 2015
Messages
2,046
Reaction score
498



That J.W. Wheeler from the 1936 draft really didn't work out well for the Pack. And we had such high hopes for him:

You must be logged in to see this image or video!


http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=208798595
 

Ace

Cheesehead
Joined
Jan 28, 2014
Messages
1,297
Reaction score
94
Location
Milwaukee

El Guapo

Cheesehead
Joined
Dec 7, 2011
Messages
6,144
Reaction score
1,605
Location
Land 'O Lakes

Poppa San

* Team Owner *
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Aug 29, 2010
Messages
12,840
Reaction score
2,749
Location
20 miles from Lambeau

JBlood

Cheesehead
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Messages
3,159
Reaction score
467
An eyewitness to history, Pat Peppler was the Packers' personnel man for Lombardi, Bengtson and Devine. This part of a series with him by Cliff Christl of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel before his death has some interesting stories to tell about the Packers' drafts from about 1964-72. The glory years and the gory years.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-cliffs-notes/article-1/Pat-Peppler-Part-III-The-Draft-Picks/91c090a4-d6ba-4af6-8949-4cd074ee14fe


http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/lofton-anderson-were-talented-co-picks-in-1978-packers-draft-b99483120z1-301126661.html

Vince Lombardi's approach to building a team in his first year: Quarterback and defense: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/164347756.html

Lombardi let a former Packers' first round qb selection get away during his first year. Things worked out all right but the Italian coach might have had an Italian quarterback running his team in the 1960's: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/230743201.html

Another first pick at qb that might have changed Packers' history: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/44402482.html.
Great articles. Thanks for posting.
 
OP
OP
P

Packerlifer

Cheesehead
Joined
Sep 4, 2008
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
118
The busts, duds, underachievers and hard-luck injury Packers' first rounders, by position:

QB: Don Horn-1967, Jerry Tagge-1972, Rich Campbell- 1981.

RB:Barty Smith-1974, Brent Fullwood-1987, Darrell Thompson-1990. (Hard luck injury cases: Jim Grabowski-1966, Eddie Lee Ivery-1979.)

WR: Larry Elkins-1965, Barry Smith-1973. https://packerperspective.com/tag/barry-smith/

C: Bob Hyland-1967. While not exactly a "bust" he didn't live up to the expectations of being Vince Lombardi's last top draft pick for the Packers.

G: Ron Hallstom-1982. Again, not a bust, actually a decent lineman he is still considered a first round reach by coach Bart Starr; especially considering other choices available at the time.

T: Tony Mandarich-1989. ( Mandarich belongs in a class by himself as a bust but there's also Jon Michels-1996 and Derek Sherrod-2011 to consider as well.)

DE: Jamal Reynolds-2001. WTH was Ron Wolf thinking? http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2011/4/12/2105740/top-10-draft-busts-since-1980-jamal-reynolds

DT: Rich Moore-1969, Bruce Clark-1980, Justin Harrell-2007.

CB: Antuan Edwards-1998, Ahmad Carroll- 2004. ( As an injury case Tim Lewis-1983)
 
Last edited:

Packer Fan in SD

Cheesehead
Joined
Jan 28, 2013
Messages
826
Reaction score
167

While technically correct, from 1947 through 1958 the NFL had a lottery giving a random team a pick before the draft. In 1947 the Bears picked Bob Fennimore and in 1958 the Chicago Cardinals picked King Hill. The 1949 Eagles selected a guy some may have heard of with the lottery pick: Chuck Benarik, who went on to have an ok career.

I read an article this morning about the NFL lottery in the 40's and 50's so I was curious and wiki'd the years of the lottery.
 
OP
OP
P

Packerlifer

Cheesehead
Joined
Sep 4, 2008
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
118
The best of Round Two, by position:

QB- Tobin Rote-1950 http://danielwyatt.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-often-overlooked-tobin-rote.html
RB- Eddie Lacy-2013
FB Jim Taylor - 1958
WR Greg Jennings-2006, Jordy Nelson-2008, Randall Cobb-2011, Billy Howton-1953 http://www.notinhalloffame.com/football/1190-50-billy-howton
OT- Forrest Gregg-1956, Chad Clifton-2000
K - Chester Marcol-1972
DT- Ron Kostelnik-1961 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...ob-done-without-a-fuss-067m9fo-180282931.html
CB- Bob Jeter-1960
S - LeRoy Butler-1990, Nick Collins-2005, Tom Brown-1963
 
Last edited:

Poppa San

* Team Owner *
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Aug 29, 2010
Messages
12,840
Reaction score
2,749
Location
20 miles from Lambeau
With Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings being second round picks as well I have to respectfully disagree with your choice at receiver.
I can agree with either of these over Cobb. Howton suffered from being on the worst stretch of teams in franchise history.
 

jrock645

Cheesehead
Joined
Feb 1, 2016
Messages
266
Reaction score
10
I was talking to someone a couple days ago... Think if Sharpe hadn't gotten hurt and that 96 team had sharpe, Brooks and Freeman...Can you imagine?!?!
 
Last edited:

PikeBadger

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Messages
6,358
Reaction score
1,741
I was talking to someone a couple days ago... Think if Sharpe hadn't gotten hurt and that 96 team had sharpe, Brooks me Freeman...Can you imagine?!?!
Brooks was drafted to replace Sharpe, wasn't he?
 

jrock645

Cheesehead
Joined
Feb 1, 2016
Messages
266
Reaction score
10
No, he was already there when Sharpe went down.

Correct. He actually mentions on his website when he was telling his story about being drafted by GB and that he wasn't happy about it. Besides being cold and them not being a good team, he didn't think he'd have a chance to shine with sharpe being there. Such a shame he had that ACL injury that pretty well derailed his career. Still one of my favorite Packers of all.
 
D

Deleted member 6794

Guest
Correct. He actually mentions on his website when he was telling his story about being drafted by GB and that he wasn't happy about it. Besides being cold and them not being a good team, he didn't think he'd have a chance to shine with sharpe being there. Such a shame he had that ACL injury that pretty well derailed his career. Still one of my favorite Packers of all.

Brooks actually won the league's comeback player of the year award in 1997, catching 60 balls for 1,010 yards and seven touchdowns after tearing his ACL during the Packers Super Bowl season. He developed back problems afterwards though derailing his career.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

PikeBadger

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Messages
6,358
Reaction score
1,741
Brooks actually won the league's comeback of the year award in 1997, catching 60 balls for 1,010 yards and seven touchdowns after tearing his ACL during the Packers Super Bowl season. He developed back problems afterwards though derailing his career.
Brooks was fearless going across the middle and some of Favre's inaccurate passes got Brooks into vulnerable positions that imo shortened his career and ended Beebe's career. It goes with the territory of being an NFL receiver. Few have ever been as consistently accurate as Brady and Rodgers.
 

Staff online

Members online

Latest posts

Top