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Packer 53 Man Roster: Predictions

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by TOPHAT, Aug 22, 2007.


    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007

    Predicting the 53-man roster

    With two roster cutdowns just ahead, PackerReport.com's Todd Korth predicts who will make the Green Bay Packers' 53-man roster and who will be on the outside looking in After Thursday night’s preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Green Bay Packers will need to trim its current roster of 88 players to the NFL-mandated 75 by 3 p.m. (CDT) on Aug. 28. Coach Mike McCarthy said Tuesday that he and general manager Ted Thompson will decide on which players will be released soon after Thursday night’s game at Lambeau Field. First, the two will take an extended look at a number of players who are on the ‘bubble’ against the Jaguars. In order to do that, McCarthy said he intends to play the first-team offense and defense for three quarters, but rotate reserves in frequently to make a better decision on who to keep and who to part with by next Tuesday, and Sept. 1, when the roster needs to be pared from 75 to 53 players.

    "The timing is not very good for us going from 75 to 53," said McCarthy. "That's the first problem. The second is that we have a number of positions that aren't answered yet. I need to clear those things up and I don't want to wait until Tennessee (Aug. 30) to do that. That's really why we're changing gears as far as playing our ones for three quarters in this game. We're going to play bunch of combinations." From this scribe’s point of view, here’s a prediction of which players will make the Packers’ 53-man roster and those who will be on the outside looking in, unless they come up with outstanding performances in the next two preseason games:


    Brett Favre
    Aaron Rodgers
    Ingle Martin
    Outside looking in:paul Thompson
    Practice squad: Paul Thompson
    Comment: Don’t be surprised if Martin is released and the Packers bring in a different quarterback in his place. His accuracy has deteriorated throughout training camp. There certainly will be better QBs out there after the cutdowns across the league.


    RB Brandon Jackson
    RB Vernand Morency
    RB Noah Herron
    FB Korey Hall
    FB Brandon Miree
    Outside looking in: Erryn Cobb, Ryan Powdrell, DeShawn Wynn, Corey White, P.J. Pope
    Practice squad: DeShawn Wynn
    Comment: Wynn may be placed on injured reserve, and the Packers also may opt to not sign him to the practice squad as well. Could go either way with him. Pope’s knee injury blew his chance of making the team.


    Donald Driver
    Greg Jennings
    James Jones
    Ruvell Martin
    Carlyle Holiday
    Outside looking in: Shaun Bodiford, David Clowney, Carlton Brewster, Calvin Russell, Chris Francies
    Practice squad: David Clowney
    Comment: Bodiford’s knee injury combined with Will Blackmon’s big game against Seattle spells the end for Bodiford in Green Bay.

    TIGHT ENDS (3)

    Donald Lee
    Bubba Franks
    Zac Alcorn
    Outside looking in: Clark Harris, Joe Werner
    Practice squad: Clark Harris

    Comment: Alcorn gets the third spot due to his experience, but Harris might claim it with solid games against Jacksonville and Tennessee. Harris also is a long snapper, so that plays in his favor. If he doesn’t make it, the Packers will sign him to the practice squad.


    OT Chad Clifton
    OT Mark Tauscher
    C Scott Wells
    G/OT Daryn Colledge
    G/C Jason Spitz
    OT/G Tony Moll
    G/C/OT Junius Coston
    C/G Tyson Walter
    G Allen Barbre
    G/C Tony Palmer
    Outside looking in: G Travis Leffew, G Adam Stenavich, OT Orrin Thompson, C/G C.J. Blomvall, G Pat Murray
    Practice squad: Orrin Thompson
    Comment: The Packers feature a versatile line with a number of players that can play more than one position. Certainly the strength of the offense heading into the season.

    Defensive Line (9)

    DE/DT Aaron Kampman
    DE/DT Cullen Jenkins
    DT Ryan Pickett
    DT/DE Corey Williams
    DT Colin Cole
    DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
    DE Jason Hunter
    DT Justin Harrell
    DT Johnny Jolly
    Outside looking in: DE Mike Montgomery, DE Larry Birdine, DE DeVon Hicks, DT Daniel Muir.
    Practice squad: Daniel Muir
    Comment: The strength of the team is the defensive line, which is why the Packers will keep nine linemen instead of the traditional eight. Look for the Packers to place Montgomery, who probably needs reconstructive surgery on his ailing knee, on the season-ending injured reserve list.


    MLB Nick Barnett
    WLB A.J. Hawk
    SLB Brady Poppinga
    WLB Tracy White
    MLB Desmond Bishop
    SLB Spencer Havner
    Outside looking in: MLB Abdul Hodge, WLB Juwan Simpson, SLB Rory Johnson, SLB Carl-Johan Bjork
    Practice squad: Carl-Johan Bjork
    Comment: Hodge missed all of the off-season minicamps and Organized Team Activities practices with a knee injury. He has made some big hits at times in camp, but will need to finish strong in the final two preseason games to win a roster spot. Thus far, Bishop has out-played Hodge for the backup middle linebacker spot.


    CB Al Harris
    CB Charles Woodson
    CB Patrick Dendy
    CB Jarrett Bush
    CB Will Blackmon
    S Marquand Manuel
    S Nick Collins
    S Atari Bigby
    S Aaron Rouse
    Outside looking in: CB Frank Walker, S Tyrone Culver, S Charlie Peprah, S Alvin Nnabuife, CB Tramon Williams, CB Antonio Malone
    Practice squad: Tramon Williams
    Comment: Of all the positions in training camp, the most intense for roster spots have been at cornerback and safety. Tough decisions ahead for McCarthy and Thompson with some good players, like Walker and Culver, falling short of their goal of making the team.


    K Mason Crosby
    P Jon Ryan
    LS Rob Davis
    Outside looking in: P Ryan Dougherty, K Dave Rayner
    Practice squad: None

    Comment: Crosby has held a slight edge over Rayner in field goal attempts made in training camp, plus he was the team’s sixth round pick this year, which gives him the nod for making the roster. Otherwise, both kickers have been outstanding. The Packers can’t go wrong with either one of them, but Crosby’s future seems to be a shade brighter than Rayner’s in the NFL. Rayner will be kicking somewhere in the league this year.

    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007

    An early stab at 53.

    So who's going to be around and who's not? Well, no one knows for sure, but here's a guess:

    Quarterbacks (3) - Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Ingle Martin

    Running backs (5) - Vernand Morency, Brandon Jackson, Noah Herron, Brandon Miree, Korey Hall

    Wide receivers (6) - Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Ruvell Martin, Carlyle Holiday, David Clowney

    Tight ends (3) - Donald Lee, Bubba Franks, Zac Alcorn

    Offensive line (9) - Chad Clifton, Daryn Colledge, Scott Wells, Jason Spitz, Mark Tauscher, Allen Barbre, Tony Moll, Orrin Thompson, Tony Palmer

    Defensive line (9) - Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Ryan Pickett, Corey Williams, Justin Harrell, Johnny Jolly, Michael Montgomery, Colin Cole

    Linebackers (6) - A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett, Brady Poppinga, Desmond Bishop, Abdul Hodge, Tracy White

    Defensive backs (9) - Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Nick Collins, Atari Bigby, Marquand Manuel, Patrick Dendy, Jarrett Bush, Will Blackmon, Marviel Underwood

    Specialists (3) - Mason Crosby, Jon Ryan, Rob Davis

    Practice squad locks - Paul Thompson, Clark Harris, Carl-Johan Bjork
  3. warhawk

    warhawk Cheesehead

    Dec 7, 2005
    While the LB corp is getting rather crowded it is hard for me to believe A. Hodge does not make the team.
    I know he's been hurt but he's got the ability to be a very good player. If anything he makes it over Havner even though he's at Sam.
  4. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

    Aug 1, 2005
    They will hide him on IR this year with his knees.. they made enough noise about it so no one will question him being put on IR.

    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007

    Packers: Who will make the team?

    With the NFL's two mandatory roster reductions — to 75 players by 3 p.m. Tuesday and to 53 players by 3 p.m. Sept. 1 — in mind, here's a subjective look at where the Packers stand entering Thursday's game against the Jaguars.

    Quarterbacks (2 or 3)

    In: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers.
    On the bubble: Ingle Martin, Paul Thompson.
    Favre is the icon. Rodgers has been impressive through two games — 28-of-43 for 265 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions and a 105.3 rating — and now looks like a very worthy heir apparent. The question is at No. 3, where Martin, a 2006 fifth-round pick, hasn't shown much. Thompson, an undrafted rookie free agent, has shown flashes but was horrible against Seattle. The coaches want to see Martin take a step forward tonight after he was knocked out of the preseason opener at Pittsburgh by a blow to the head. It's possible the Packers could keep just Favre and Rodgers and put Thompson on the practice squad.

    Running backs (5 or 6)

    In: Brandon Jackson, Korey Hall.
    On the bubble: Vernand Morency, Noah Herron, Corey White, Brandon Miree, DeShawn Wynn. Out: P.J. Pope, Ryan Powdrell.
    No area is more uncertain than the backfield, where Jackson, a rookie second-round pick, has assumed the starting halfback job because Morency hasn't practiced since the opening of camp July 28, when he strained the patellar tendon in his right knee. Coach Mike McCarthy thinks he'll be ready for the opener, but who knows for sure? Miree is listed as the starting fullback on the depth chart but has missed significant time with a stinger, allowing Hall, a converted college linebacker and rookie sixth-round pick, to make a run at the job. Herron seems safe as the third-down back, but the position is in too much flux to know for sure. Wynn teased the coaches with a glimpse of his ability in practice before a quadriceps injury put him back on the sideline before the games started. It's hard to believe he hasn't found a way to get back on the field. Pope and Powdrell's knee injuries killed their chances.

    Wide receivers (5 or 6)

    In: Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Ruvell Martin.
    On the bubble: Carlyle Holiday, David Clowney, Chris Francies.
    Out: Calvin Russell, Carlton Brewster, Shaun Bodiford.
    The release of Robert Ferguson was in part the result of Martin and Holiday's improvement. Holiday has the inside track on the No. 5 job, while Francies would have to do something spectacular to earn it. Clowney has struggled as a receiver and is more practice-squad material. Bodiford had a realistic shot to make the team as a returner before a knee injury against Seattle knocked him out. Suspended receiver Koren Robinson is eligible for reinstatement Sept. 18, when his one-year ban for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy expires.

    Tight ends (3)

    In: Donald Lee, Bubba Franks.
    On the bubble: Zac Alcorn, Clark Harris
    Out: Joe Werner.
    The team kept four tight ends last year but barely has two worth keeping this year. Franks looks like a new man after back-to-back disappointing seasons, while Lee remains listed as the starter. They'll see the bulk of the action because neither candidate for the No. 3 job has done much. Harris, a rookie seventh-round pick from Rutgers, could have seized the job but didn't. The competition is so poor that injured Tory Humphrey (ankle) was probably the best option here. Don't be surprised if the team claims a tight end on the final cuts. Werner isn't ready to play in the NFL but a year on the practice squad could make him an intriguing prospect.

    Offensive line (9 or 10)

    In: LT Chad Clifton, RT Mark Tauscher, C Scott Wells, RG Jason Spitz, LG Daryn Colledge, G Allen Barbre.
    On the bubble: RT Tony Moll, T/G Junius Coston, G/C Tony Palmer, C/T Tyson Walter.
    Out: T/G Travis Leffew, T/G Adam Stenavich, G Pat Murray, T Orrin Thompson, C C.J. Blomvall.
    Barbre, a rookie fourth-round pick, appears to be the top backup, mainly because Moll has missed so much time with a pinched nerve in his neck. Palmer had been an option as the backup to Wells at center but a hamstring injury has sidelined him. Still, he figures to stick, as does Coston, a 2005 fifth-round pick who's finally starting to show why the team drafted him. Walter's versatility and experience could land him the final spot.

    Defensive line (9 or 10)

    In: DE Aaron Kampman, DE Cullen Jenkins, DT Ryan Pickett, DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, DT Justin Harrell, DT Corey Williams, DT Johnny Jolly.
    On the bubble: DE Michael Montgomery, DT Colin Cole, DE Jason Hunter, DT Daniel Muir.
    Out: DE Larry Birdine, DE DeVon Hicks.
    Jenkins, like Kampman last year, has taken his game to a higher plane after signing a big contract. Harrell, the rookie first-round pick, has been outplayed by Jolly, Williams, Pickett and Cole, but he's the No. 1 pick and will eventually be a player. Jolly's camp has been the most impressive, considering he did little as a sixth-round pick last year. Montgomery was a lock after a strong camp but now could be headed to injured reserve with a knee injury suffered against Seattle. At best, he'll be inactive for the first few weeks of the season. That could open the door for Hunter. Cole deserves a roster spot but could be traded. Muir has been impressive as an undrafted rookie.

    Linebackers (5 or 6)

    In: MLB Nick Barnett, WLB A.J. Hawk, SLB Brady Poppinga.
    On the bubble: MLB Abdul Hodge, WLB Tracy White, MLB Desmond Bishop, WLB Rory Johnson, SLB Spencer Havner.
    Out: MLB-WLB Tim Goodwell, SLB Juwan Simpson.
    The starters are set. The backups are anything but. White, a top-notch special-teamer, should make the team based on that alone. Bishop, a rookie sixth-round pick, is working ahead of Hodge, whose patellar tendinitis in both knees is troubling. Johnson, Havner, Bishop and Hodge are playing for the last one or two jobs tonight and next Thursday night.

    Defensive backs (9 or 10)

    In: CB Al Harris, S Nick Collins, CB Charles Woodson, S Atari Bigby, CB Will Blackmon, S Aaron Rouse, CB Jarrett Bush.
    On the bubble: S Marquand Manuel, CB Patrick Dendy, S Tyrone Culver, CB Tramon Williams, CB Frank Walker, S Charlie Peprah.
    Out: S Alvin Nnabuife, CB Antonio Malone.
    Bigby starts Thursday night ahead of Manuel, and with rookie third-round pick Rouse, Culver and Peprah in the mix, Manuel could be cut. The team would take a $1.2 million hit on the salary cap in 2008, but it may be time for the club to admit it whiffed on him as a free agent. Marviel Underwood has already been cut, Manuel could be next. Bush has taken the lead in the No. 3 corner spot over Dendy, but both figure to make the team. Blackmon's return work should land him a spot, too. Culver, a 2006 sixth-round pick, is reliable, while Peprah has flashed and is good on special teams. Walker, the club's only unrestricted free-agent signing, simply hasn't shown as much as Bush, Blackmon, Dendy or Williams. He got a $150,000 signing bonus up front, but with a $750,000 base salary and $240,000 roster bonus (in the form of $15,000 for each game he's on the 45-man roster), he'll have to come on strong in the final two games to show he's worth keeping, both fiscally and given the younger players' improvement.

    Special teams (3)

    In: LS Rob Davis, P Jon Ryan.
    On the bubble: K Dave Rayner, K Mason Crosby.
    Out: P Ryan Dougherty.
    Rayner and Crosby are in an intense duel for the kicking job, and special teams coordinator Mike Stock insists Crosby hasn't taken even a slight lead. Everything being equal, Crosby will likely get the nod based on potential, while Rayner's one year of experience kicking at Lambeau Field should help his chances. Ryan is punting extremely well, improving following a technique change.
  6. warhawk

    warhawk Cheesehead

    Dec 7, 2005
    This team has come a LONG, LONG, ways in terms of depth. If you look at just a few years ago our backups were so pathetic they would not have made other teams rosters.

    We are going to be suiting up 45 damn good football players on game day.
  7. nathaniel

    nathaniel Cheesehead

    Jan 22, 2007
    Thats all I can think of when I read all the roster predictions. We have alot of great guys, and I can't wait till this thing gets underway.

    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007


    Analysis: Who's a lock, who's not as roster cuts near

    Ted Thompson might be just as busy on the waiver wire and making trades at the end of this training camp as he was after last year’s. After final cuts last September, the Green Bay Packers’ general manager picked up three players off waivers for his 53-man roster. This year, because injuries and shaky play have put his team in a roster bind at halfback, fullback and tight end, Thompson and his scouting staff are studying every team’s game tapes especially close at those positions for possible trades or waiver pickups before the start of the regular season. The Packers say they expect to get back halfback Vernand Morency, a likely significant contributor, by the regular-season opener. backup or two.

    Following is a breakdown of the Packers’ 87-man roster before the cuts to 75 on Aug. 28 and final cuts to 53 on Sept. 1.

    Quarterbacks (2 or 3)

    Locks: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers.
    On the bubble: Ingle Martin, Paul Thompson.
    Comment: In 2001, former coach and GM Mike Sherman carried only two quarterbacks the final six weeks of the season, and several NFL teams opened last season with only two quarterbacks on the roster. Ted Thompson never has done that, but even if it’s not likely, it’s something he might consider this year, especially if there’s an extra defensive lineman or defensive back he values. Undrafted rookie Paul Thompson shows some potential with a live arm and good mobility, and is pushing second-year pro Ingle Martin for the No. 3 job. But both have had their struggles in camp and especially the first two preseason games. Both are eligible for the practice squad.

    Running backs (5 or 6)

    Locks: RB Brandon Jackson, RB Vernand Morency, FB Korey Hall.
    On the bubble: RB Noah Herron, RB-FB Corey White, FB Brandon Miree, RB DeShawn Wynn.
    Long shots: RB P.J. Pope, FB Erryn Cobb, FB Ryan Powdrell.
    Comment: The injuries to seventh-round pick Wynn (quadriceps pull) and second-year pro Pope (knee cartilage) helped blow up this position, because both are more talented than Herron, and the Packers hoped one of them would upgrade their No. 3 halfback. Instead, Herron holds that job for now. He’s conscientious and dependable, but that still has to scare the Packers because of Morency’s patellar-tendon injury sustained on the first day of camp. If Morency has more problems with his knee, or the rookie starter Jackson gets hurt, Herron would move up to the No. 2 job, where his pedestrian explosiveness is a liability. The team also is hurting at fullback, where converted linebacker Korey Hall has made a fast transition as a rookie and will be the starter unless the Packers pick up a more experienced player at that position. Miree started camp slowly and then has been in and out of practice the last three weeks because of a nerve injury in his neck and shoulder. Powdrell, an undrafted rookie, lost whatever shot he had at making the roster with an MCL injury last week that will sideline him three to six weeks. Also, White hasn’t done enough so far to warrant a job at a hybrid halfback-fullback and has only two games to change that.

    Receivers (5 or 6)

    Locks: Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Ruvell Martin.
    Good bet: Carlyle Holiday.
    On the bubble: David Clowney.
    Long shots: Chris Francies, Shaun Bodiford, Calvin Russell, Carlton Brewster.
    Comment: The third-round pick Jones has been one of the stars of training camp and a surprise to any scouts who considered him a late-round prospect. He’s wrapped up the No. 3 receiving job and might provide a substantial upgrade from last year. Martin and Holiday played well enough in camp to make injury-prone Robert Ferguson expendable. Neither is fast, but Martin is a big (6-foot-4) and polished receiver who could be a red-zone threat, and Holiday has become a good special-teams cover man. Clowney, a fifth-round pick, is the best pure vertical threat on the roster and has improved as camp has gone on, but he’s still raw and a better bet for the practice squad than the 53-man roster.

    Tight end (3 or 4)

    Lock: Donald Lee, Bubba Franks.
    On the bubble: Zac Alcorn, Clark Harris.
    Long shot: Joe Werner.
    Comment: Lee, the new starter, has been a consistent receiver so far in camp, but this looks like a weak position overall. Franks, the best blocker of the group, looks a tad quicker this year and has had an OK camp after two sub-par years, but still has the same limitations with speed and agility that he’s always had. He and Lee will share time and probably get plenty of snaps in two tight-end sets. Alcorn supposedly has the best hands of the group, and the Packers had high hopes for him going into camp, but he hasn’t distinguished himself. He gamely practiced through horrendous blistering on his feet, caused by excessive practice reps after injuries hit early in camp, and that’s surely contributed to his struggles. But he’ll need to play well in the last two games to win a roster spot. Harris has been better lately but probably not good enough after an extremely slow start in camp. Joe Werner, the former UW-La Crosse basketball player, might warrant a shot on the practice squad. Humphrey probably was the best athlete of the group and might have won the No. 3 job if not for his broken leg.

    Offensive line (9 or 10)

    Locks: T Chad Clifton, G Daryn Colledge, C Scott Wells, G Jason Spitz, T Mark Tauscher, G Allen Barbre.
    Good bets: G-T Junius Coston, T Tony Moll.
    On the bubble: C-T Tyson Walter, C-G Tony Palmer.
    Long shots: G-T Adam Stenavich, C C.J. Blomvall, G Pat Murray, G-T Travis Leffew, T Orrin Thompson.
    Comment: The fourth-round pick Barbre has been better than either Spitz or Colledge were last year as rookies. He could be a left guard or left tackle of the future. Coston finally has made a nice jump in his third season, and with his versatility — he probably could play anywhere on the offensive line if needed — has all but locked up a backup job. Moll has had a tough camp, because he’s still unpolished and has been in and out of practice since Aug. 7 because of a shoulder stinger. Still, he has too much potential to cut. Palmer is one of the best drive blockers on the roster, so that could win him a job even though he’s been slowed by a hamstring injury the past week. Walter’s versatility to play several positions also could land him a job.

    Defensive line (9 or 10)

    Locks: DE Aaron Kampman, DT Ryan Pickett, DT Justin Harrell, DE Cullen Jenkins, DT Corey Williams, DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila.
    Good bets: DT Colin Cole, DT Johnny Jolly.
    On the bubble: DE Michael Montgomery, DE Jason Hunter, DE Larry Birdine.
    Long shots: DT Daniel Muir, DE DeVon Hicks.
    Comment: The Packers are deep enough at defensive tackle to warrant keeping five — Pickett, Harrell, Williams, Jolly and Cole. They could deal one of them, but Thompson values big men and might be loathe to leaving the position vulnerable to injuries. Montgomery was having a good camp as a backup DE but probably will miss six weeks because of an MCL injury, so Thompson will have to decide whether to carry him on the roster while he recovers for the first month or more of the season, or place him on injured reserve. Hunter has played a big role on special teams and is a decent outside rusher who could replace Montgomery. Birdine, an undrafted rookie, has looked more like the good prospect he was early in his career at Oklahoma rather than the underachiever of the last couple years. He has some pass-rush talent that might make him worth keeping. Muir, another undrafted rookie, might have a decent shot at making the roster in past years, but unless there are injuries or trades appears out of luck this year.

    Linebackers (5 or 6)

    Locks: WLB A.J. Hawk, MLB Nick Barnett, SLB Brady Poppinga.
    On the bubble: SLB Spencer Havner, WLB Tracy White, MLB Abdul Hodge, MLB Desmond Bishop, WLB Rory Johnson.
    Long shots: WLB Tim Goodwell, SLB Juwan Simpson.
    Comment: The starters are set and a strength of the defense, but the backups are a major concern. Hodge’s patellar tendinitis in both knees has diminished his play and left him in a dead heat with Bishop for the backup job at middle linebacker. Bishop worked with the No. 2 defense this week in practice. Havner could be a special-teams core player and is versatile enough to play two or three of the linebacker positions, so he has a decent shot at a job. White is a special-teams standout from the last two seasons and could win a spot on that account. Undrafted rookie Rory Johnson is the most physically gifted of the group and will get a long look the last two games now that he’s close to fully recovered from an abdominal strain.

    Defensive backs (9 or 10)

    Locks: CB Charles Woodson, CB Al Harris, S Nick Collins, S Atari Bigby, CB Jarrett Bush, S Aaron Rouse, CB Will Blackmon.
    On the bubble: S Marquand Manuel, S Charlie Peprah, S Tyrone Culver, CB Patrick Dendy, CB Frank Walker, CB Tramon Williams.
    Long shots: S Alvin Nnabuife, CB Antonio Malone.
    Comment: Bigby has a great shot at beating out Manuel for the starting job opposite Collins this week. If Bigby performs, Manuel could become trade bait or a possible cut. The Packers cut Marviel Underwood so they could get a longer look at Peprah and Culver before deciding whether either should be No. 4 safety if Manuel is expendable. Similar to Bigby at safety, Bush has a chance to nail down the No. 3 cornerback job this week after replacing Dendy in that role in practice. He’s been the third-best cornerback for most of camp. Blackmon, who has all but locked up the job as punt and kickoff returner, still could get consideration for that job as well. Williams and Walker will be battling Dendy for the fifth and likely final CB job. Dendy was the No. 3 last year and is assignment-sure, but didn’t improve as much as Bush and Blackmon. Williams has flashed cover skills, especially early in camp. Walker, who received a $150,000 bonus as the Packers’ only free-agent signee this offseason, hasn’t played as well as projected and needs a big final two games to win a spot.

    Specialists (3)

    Locks: P Jon Ryan, LS Rob Davis.
    On the bubble: K Dave Rayner, K Mason Crosby.
    Long shot: P Ryan Dougherty.
    Comment: Rayner and the sixth-round pick Crosby have been in a near dead heat for the kicking job all training camp. Crosby ultimately could get the nod because of his youth and perhaps slightly better long-term talent, but Rayner has a strong leg as well and kicked in Green Bay’s climate for a year. Both have good temperaments for the job. The last two preseason games will be critical. Ryan has adapted well to changing from a three-step punter to two steps and improved his hang times as well.
  9. Greg C.

    Greg C. Cheesehead

    May 31, 2005
    "Manuel could become trade bait"? Now THAT'S funny. I think he will be cut.

    It's been said before, but I like the way the offensive and defensive lines are shaping up on this team. That's a good way to build a team: Solidify the lines first, then fill in the gaps at the other positions.
  10. TOPHAT

    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007


    ...In fact, three weeks into training camp, the ex-Giant is fighting just to make the final roster. "Walker needs to be more consistent," said a former scout who has attended about a dozen practices this summer. "On certain days, he looks like the best pure cover guy on the field. But there are too many other days when he gets sloppy and allows fringe receivers to make him look bad. It's exactly those type of up and down performances that got Walker benched late last season."

    Here are three other players who have had disappointing camps:

    JUSTIN HARRELL: ...But even those not expecting much have to be a little disappointed in his performance thus far. "I know he's rusty, but this kid should be able to beat players like Tyson Walter and Travis Leffew in his sleep," said the scout. "The fact that he's not even standing out against second and third-string linemen is a bit concerning. There's no need to panic, but it's time for him to step it up."

    INGLE MARTIN: ..."If the team didn't invest a fifth-round pick and an entire year in Martin, he'd be in big trouble," said the scout. "He still might be, but I think [coach] Mike McCarthy would like to keep him around. He really needs to show something in the next few weeks. So far, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve a second season."

    BRANDON MIREE: ...concerns about his durability. Those concerns were obviously well justified. Miree has been sidelined for most of camp with assorted injuries. "He couldn't stay healthy in Denver either, so this might not be just a case of bad luck," said the scout. "It's tough playing fullback at 235 pounds. There's a reason why most of the guys who play that position are a lot bigger."
  11. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

    Aug 1, 2005
  12. TOPHAT

    TOPHAT Cheesehead

    Mar 1, 2007

    GM must make unkindest cuts

    Thompson said he's still evaluating several scenarios, but by now, the roster is pretty well set. Here's a guess at how the 2007 Packers will look.

    QUARTERBACKS (3)• Keep: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Paul Thompson. • Cut: Ingle Martin.
    The first two quarterbacks are clear-cut. Favre is nearing the end of a Hall of Fame career. Rodgers has had his most impressive summer since the Packers used a first-round draft pick on him in 2005. The only battle is between Martin, last year's No. 3, and rookie free agent Thompson. Martin has struggled throughout much of camp and doesn't appear to have gotten any better. Thompson is more raw than Martin and threw two interceptions Saturday against Seattle. Still, Thompson carries more upside, which makes him the perfect player to groom behind Favre and Rodgers.

    RUNNING BACKS (4) • Keep: Brandon Jackson, Vernand Morency, Noah Herron, Corey White. • Cut: DeShawn Wynn, P.J. Pope.
    Jackson has the inside track on the starting job, largely because Morency has been out since the first day of camp. Herron has done nothing to hurt his chances of being the third-down back again. White, a rookie free agent, could surprise and stick largely because he can also play fullback and his ability on short-yardage and goal-line plays. Wynn, a seventh-round draft pick, and Pope had their chances ruined due to injuries throughout camp.

    FULLBACKS (2) • Keep: Brandon Miree, Korey Hall. • Cut: Ryan Powdrell.
    Miree has missed both pre-season games with a shoulder stinger, but remains the best bet to be the opening-day starter. Don't rule out Hall, though, a converted linebacker who has taken to the position quickly. Regardless if Hall starts, his roster spot is safe because he's a potential standout on special teams. Powdrell, another converted linebacker, failed to impress then suffered an MCL injury against Seattle.

    WIDE RECEIVERS (5)• Keep: Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Ruvell Martin, Carlyle Holiday. • Cut: Shaun Bodiford, David Clowney, Carlton Brewster, Chris Francies, Calvin Russell.
    Jones has been the surprise of camp and could eventually push Jennings as the starter opposite Driver. Martin has had a big summer and built on what was a solid first year in Green Bay. Holiday, who has caught a TD pass in each of the first two pre-season games, has the edge for the fifth and final job. Holiday could be a real weapon in the red zone and has become integral on special teams. Bodiford appeared to have a decent chance of surviving earlier in camp. But he's been passed in the return game by CB Will Blackmon and suffered an MCL injury against Seattle. Clowney is weak and has been awful as a receiver, but GM Thompson might try saving face and store the fifth-round pick on the practice squad. The rest of the group were all long shots coming to camp and didn't show enough to stick around.

    TIGHT ENDS (3) • Keep: Donald Lee, Bubba Franks, Zac Alcorn. • Cut: Clark Harris.
    Lee has had a solid camp and is the likely starter. But Lee's still best suited to be a backup and the Packers would be well advised to add another tight end before camp ends. Franks flashed against the Seahawks (4-30) for one of the first times all summer and will stick. Alcorn gets the nod at No. 3 over Harris, although Harris might wind up on the practice squad.

    OFFENSIVE LINE (9)• Keep: Chad Clifton, Daryn Colledge, Scott Wells, Jason Spitz, Mark Tauscher, Tony Moll, Allen Barbre, Junius Coston, Tyson Walter. • Cut: Tony Palmer, Orrin Thompson, Travis Leffew, Pat Murray, Adam Stenavich, C.J. Blomvall
    The starting five of Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Spitz and Tauscher returns intact. Moll can play guard and tackle, but it appears he's being groomed to replace Tauscher in 2009. Barbre, a rookie fourth-rounder who has spent most of training camp at left guard, has impressed and appears to be a future starter, as well. Coston has likely bought himself a third year with his ability to play multiple positions. Walter's versatility gives him the edge over an injured Palmer for the ninth and final spot.

    DEFENSIVE ENDS (4) • Keep: Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Mike Montgomery. • Cut: Jason Hunter, DeVon Hicks, Larry Birdine.
    Kampman, a Pro Bowl selection in 2006, and the ascending Jenkins give the Packers a dynamic pair of ends. Gbaja-Biamila figures to make a major impact as a nickel pass rusher. Montgomery, a third-year player, was having his best camp before suffering an MCL injury against Seattle. If Montgomery rebounds quickly enough, he's in. If he has to go on the PUP list, Hunter is likely to survive.

    DEFENSIVE TACKLES (5) • Keep: Ryan Pickett, Corey Williams, Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, Colin Cole. • Cut: Daniel Muir.
    This is the deepest and arguably the most talented position on Green Bay's roster. The Packers believe they have at least three players who are of starting caliber and will employ a rotation system. There is a chance Green Bay could trade a tackle and try shoring up an area of weakness such as tight end. If the Packers do so, Williams - a free agent at the end of the year - would be the most likely to go.

    LINEBACKERS (6) • Keep: A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett, Brady Poppinga, Tracy White, Desmond Bishop, Abdul Hodge. • Cut: Spencer Havner, Juwan Simpson, Tim Goodwell, Rory Johnson.
    The starters - Hawk, Barnett and Poppinga - could develop into an upper echelon unit. White will return for a second season because he's one of Green Bay's best special teams players. Bishop, a sixth-round draft choice, has passed Hodge up in this camp as the top reserve in the middle. Bishop might also be able to play on the strong side. Hodge, a third-round pick in 2006, has been limited by patellar tendinitis in both knees. But because GM Thompson has a soft spot for linebackers, the guess is he'll keep six and Hodge will survive by a whisker.

    CORNERBACKS (5) *Keep: Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Jarrett Bush, Will Blackmon, Patrick Dendy. • Cut: Tramon Williams, Frank Walker, Antonio Malone.
    Woodson should have been a Pro Bowl pick a year ago. Harris is a solid complement. The pair rivals Chicago and Philadelphia for the best tandem in the NFC. Bush and Blackmon are young, ascending players who've had strong camps. Dendy, the No. 3 cornerback a year ago, has probably done enough to stick, but is unlikely to keep his job in the nickel. It's not unfathomable that Dendy could lose out to Williams, a practice-squad player last year who's clearly improved. Walker, Green Bay's only free-agent acquisition this off-season, has flopped and figures to be sent packing.

    SAFETIES (4) • Keep: Nick Collins, Atari Bigby, Marquand Manuel, Aaron Rouse. • Cut: Marviel Underwood, Tyrone Culver, Charlie Peprah, Alvin Nnabuife.
    Collins has Pro Bowl ability and is a lock at one starter. Bigby looked like the second coming of LeRoy Butler against Seattle and seems poised to win the job opposite Collins. Manuel, a starter last season, has been better this camp than any time in 2006. Manuel could be cut if he loses out to Bigby, but he's a Thompson favorite who will likely serve as a veteran backup. Rouse has shown little this summer, but survives because he was a third-round pick. Underwood is coming off a torn ACL and hasn't been nearly the player he was last summer. Because of that, his time could be up. Culver was Green Bay's No. 3 safety last season, but loses out in a numbers game this year.

    SPECIALISTS (3) • Keep: Kicker Mason Crosby, punter Jon Ryan, long-snapper Rob Davis. • Cut: Kicker Dave Rayner, punter Ryan Dougherty.
    The best battle in camp has come between the incumbent Rayner and the rookie Crosby. Their daily accuracy has been extremely close to date, but Crosby has the bigger leg and more upside. Rayner, who made a disappointing 74.3% of his attempts a year ago, will likely kick somewhere in the league. It just won't be in Green Bay. Ryan has been much more consistent this summer after changing to a two-step approach.

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