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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 428893" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"> <span style="color: #141414"> The Packers did win the Super Bowl without him but I don’t think it follows that they wouldn’t have won it if he were active for that entire season. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">I’ve never been in the Packers locker room (when there were players in it) so I don’t know the interaction of Finley and his teammates. But I do know Thompson and McCarthy care a great deal about the chemistry in the locker room – IMO they care as much or more about it than any other GM/HC tandem. And while I don’t know the details of Finley’s work ethic, I do know what Mike McCarthy has said about Finley. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">"See, Jermichael publicly and when he's in the building is not the same," said McCarthy. "His persona and some of the things he does with his messaging is not the guy that we work with. He's a team guy that wants the football and (will do) whatever it takes to win."</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">"I love that kid, man," McCarthy said. "He's so competitive, and he loves to play football. He makes us a better football team. Not just because of his ability and his uniqueness, but also his competitive spirit. We missed him from a competitive standpoint. That guy loves to perform. Every day. In everything we do."</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Thos quotes are from a <span style="color: black">March, 2011 jsonline article. <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html" target="_blank">h</a></span>ttp://<a href="http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html" target="_blank">www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html</a></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">As recently as his season ending press conference, McCarthy said this: “Jermichael probably brings a lot of criticism on himself because of his personality, but the man that I work with, he has a great work ethic. There’s no one that’s more into the practice on a daily basis than Jermichael. He wants to be a great player and thinks he’s going to be a great player, and with his talent level, that’s half the battle. So I look for him to continue to develop and establish himself as one of the better tight ends, a Pro Bowl-type tight end in this league.” (This quote is from the Packers’ website.) </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Of course I wish Finley would catch the ball more consistently and I’m “old school” enough to wish he would just shut up and play. Times change and that’s just not how it’s done by most of today’s NFL players. Even so, I don’t see Finley among the league’s worst offenders, as Bogart does. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">I hope Finley gets a reasonable (by NFL standards of course) long-term contract because:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">1. Although he’s been in the league four years, he’s just 24 years old. He has a chance to mature both physically and psychologically. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">2. He’s a physical specimen – even his critics (usually) don’t question his potential.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">3. I have heard/read more than one writer/observer of Packers training camps describe him as having the best hands on the team. Of course it didn’t look like it this year but this and his physical gifts make me believe maturity is the only missing ingredient. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">4. He’s a matchup nightmare for opponents so he makes a positive difference in the passing game even when he’s not catching the ball. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">5. Finally most importantly, someone who knows a heck of a lot more about football, who knows Finley very well, whose job depends directly upon the performance of the team, <em>really</em> wants him on the team as the quotes above indicate. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">But Finley and his agent have to be reasonable. If they bargain like Finley talks about himself at times, the Packers would be foolish to overpay him to that degree. I have confidence Thompson won’t overpay him. It would involve some risk but the ideal scenario IMO would be to sign Finley to a 3 to 5-year deal with reasonable guaranteed money and lots of incentives and tag and trade Flynn like Thompson did with Corey Williams.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Having typed all that, IMO it’s more important to extend Wells or acquire his replacement – like Konz in the draft. (I try to be careful going overboard on the NFL potenital of Badgers - because I'm a fan - but it's hard not to, regarding Konz.) But I’d rather extend Wells so top picks can be spent on defense and no rookie or newcomer would know the O like Wells does. My guess is Rodgers would prefer to keep him too. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 428893, member: 4300"] [FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][COLOR=#141414] The Packers did win the Super Bowl without him but I don’t think it follows that they wouldn’t have won it if he were active for that entire season. [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]I’ve never been in the Packers locker room (when there were players in it) so I don’t know the interaction of Finley and his teammates. But I do know Thompson and McCarthy care a great deal about the chemistry in the locker room – IMO they care as much or more about it than any other GM/HC tandem. And while I don’t know the details of Finley’s work ethic, I do know what Mike McCarthy has said about Finley. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=tahoma]"See, Jermichael publicly and when he's in the building is not the same," said McCarthy. "His persona and some of the things he does with his messaging is not the guy that we work with. He's a team guy that wants the football and (will do) whatever it takes to win."[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=tahoma]"I love that kid, man," McCarthy said. "He's so competitive, and he loves to play football. He makes us a better football team. Not just because of his ability and his uniqueness, but also his competitive spirit. We missed him from a competitive standpoint. That guy loves to perform. Every day. In everything we do."[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=tahoma]Thos quotes are from a [COLOR=black]March, 2011 jsonline article. [URL='http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html']h[/URL][/COLOR]ttp://[URL='http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html']www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/117210108.html[/URL][/FONT] [FONT=tahoma]As recently as his season ending press conference, McCarthy said this: “Jermichael probably brings a lot of criticism on himself because of his personality, but the man that I work with, he has a great work ethic. There’s no one that’s more into the practice on a daily basis than Jermichael. He wants to be a great player and thinks he’s going to be a great player, and with his talent level, that’s half the battle. So I look for him to continue to develop and establish himself as one of the better tight ends, a Pro Bowl-type tight end in this league.” (This quote is from the Packers’ website.) [/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=tahoma]Of course I wish Finley would catch the ball more consistently and I’m “old school” enough to wish he would just shut up and play. Times change and that’s just not how it’s done by most of today’s NFL players. Even so, I don’t see Finley among the league’s worst offenders, as Bogart does. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]I hope Finley gets a reasonable (by NFL standards of course) long-term contract because:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]1. Although he’s been in the league four years, he’s just 24 years old. He has a chance to mature both physically and psychologically. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]2. He’s a physical specimen – even his critics (usually) don’t question his potential.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]3. I have heard/read more than one writer/observer of Packers training camps describe him as having the best hands on the team. Of course it didn’t look like it this year but this and his physical gifts make me believe maturity is the only missing ingredient. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]4. He’s a matchup nightmare for opponents so he makes a positive difference in the passing game even when he’s not catching the ball. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]5. Finally most importantly, someone who knows a heck of a lot more about football, who knows Finley very well, whose job depends directly upon the performance of the team, [I]really[/I] wants him on the team as the quotes above indicate. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]But Finley and his agent have to be reasonable. If they bargain like Finley talks about himself at times, the Packers would be foolish to overpay him to that degree. I have confidence Thompson won’t overpay him. It would involve some risk but the ideal scenario IMO would be to sign Finley to a 3 to 5-year deal with reasonable guaranteed money and lots of incentives and tag and trade Flynn like Thompson did with Corey Williams.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=tahoma]Having typed all that, IMO it’s more important to extend Wells or acquire his replacement – like Konz in the draft. (I try to be careful going overboard on the NFL potenital of Badgers - because I'm a fan - but it's hard not to, regarding Konz.) But I’d rather extend Wells so top picks can be spent on defense and no rookie or newcomer would know the O like Wells does. My guess is Rodgers would prefer to keep him too. [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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