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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 880099"><p>Right. That's what I said. You're right that rule has never changed. Here's the the passage from the current rule book:</p><p></p><p>"A player who gathers the ball while progressing may (a) take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball or (b) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball to start his dribble."</p><p></p><p>It is "gathers", not "has gathered".</p><p></p><p>Where you are off is that there's no such thing as 3 steps, or 2 1/2 steps for that matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is incorrect. Like I said, once the dribble is picked up (after the gather step which is step 1) the next foot that hits the floor establishes the pivot foot (step 2). You get the gather step, a step off the pivot foot, then the leap off the opposite foot and the release before the pivot foot hits the floor. The idea of the pivot foot, and that you can pick it up so long as you don't put it back down before shooting or passing is as old as God and is imbeeded in that rule.</p><p></p><p>Dribble stops...pivot foot established...one more step...leap off the non-pivot foot...release before the pivot hits the floor.</p><p></p><p>It's the leap and release that looks like a 3rd. step at times or, as I said jumping off the "wrong" foot (a right hander shooting off the right foot on a drive) can look like an extra step at times. But sometimes guys do take three steps with no call. Not very often an issue on the fast break flying dunk or a straight line drive to the basket; it's when they elude sombody in a stutter step off the dribble to the basket or across the lane where they lose the gather step and get away with the three total. Some of those are pretty clear cut.</p><p></p><p>It might have been three years ago I watched a little of Antetokounmpo. I'm sure today there are 6 minute stretches where he doesn't do much. Every player has those at least from time to time no matter how good they are.</p><p></p><p>I was going to say it's a good thing the moderators are in quarantine or something' with this wildly off-topic thread. Then I saw the owner of this joint chiming in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 880099"] Right. That's what I said. You're right that rule has never changed. Here's the the passage from the current rule book: "A player who gathers the ball while progressing may (a) take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball or (b) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball to start his dribble." It is "gathers", not "has gathered". Where you are off is that there's no such thing as 3 steps, or 2 1/2 steps for that matter. That is incorrect. Like I said, once the dribble is picked up (after the gather step which is step 1) the next foot that hits the floor establishes the pivot foot (step 2). You get the gather step, a step off the pivot foot, then the leap off the opposite foot and the release before the pivot foot hits the floor. The idea of the pivot foot, and that you can pick it up so long as you don't put it back down before shooting or passing is as old as God and is imbeeded in that rule. Dribble stops...pivot foot established...one more step...leap off the non-pivot foot...release before the pivot hits the floor. It's the leap and release that looks like a 3rd. step at times or, as I said jumping off the "wrong" foot (a right hander shooting off the right foot on a drive) can look like an extra step at times. But sometimes guys do take three steps with no call. Not very often an issue on the fast break flying dunk or a straight line drive to the basket; it's when they elude sombody in a stutter step off the dribble to the basket or across the lane where they lose the gather step and get away with the three total. Some of those are pretty clear cut. It might have been three years ago I watched a little of Antetokounmpo. I'm sure today there are 6 minute stretches where he doesn't do much. Every player has those at least from time to time no matter how good they are. I was going to say it's a good thing the moderators are in quarantine or something' with this wildly off-topic thread. Then I saw the owner of this joint chiming in. [/QUOTE]
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