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<blockquote data-quote="TOPHAT" data-source="post: 163267" data-attributes="member: 781"><p><strong>SCOUT.COM VIEW</strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672915" target="_blank">http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672915</a></p><p></p><p><strong>A diamond in the rough:</strong> Jones continues to silence draft-day doubters by making plays </p><p></p><p>When the Green Bay Packers selected James Jones in the third round of the 2007 NFL draft, a lot of Packer fans were puzzled. The first question was WHO? Then people looked at the fact that Jones was selected two or three rounds ahead of schedule based on some of the draft guru information. Then there was the perception that Jones didn't have world class speed. People didn't realize that Jones was a bonafide playmaker at San Jose State. Also forgotten was the physical strengths that Jones possesses. Brett Favre has compared Jones physically to Sterling Sharpe. And then there are the hands. Jones has outstanding hands catching the football. Either way Jones didn't give much credence to the fans' opinions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Jones has had an excellent preseason so far catching 16 passes for 196 yards and two touchdowns, but Jones knows he still has to keep improving. "The main thing right now is just limiting my mistakes," Jones said. Jones knows that to be a complete receiver, all phases of his game have to be above average. That means blocking for the running game as well. <strong>Jones will start this week along with second year receiver Greg Jennings as Donald Driver will sit out with a foot sprain. Jones might find that starting will soon become a habit. The Packers were poor in 2006 in the red zone and in converting third downs. A physical receiver like Jones, who has great hands, should help improve both of those areas</strong>.</p><p>______________________________________________________________</p><p></p><p><a href="http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672936" target="_blank">http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672936</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Linebacker's season nears end</strong> </p><p></p><p><strong>Hodge should opt to repair ailing knees first, then focus on football, says PackerReport.com.</strong> Abdul Hodge will be traveling to New York on Wednesday to undergo further tests on his ailing knees. The Packers' medical staff says that Hodge has patellar tendonitis in both knees, but to be sure, Hodge will seek out further advice from the New York Giants' team doctor to determine if surgery is needed in one or both knees.</p><p>Hodge's knee problems date back to last season, one that began with a lot of promise in training camp, but then fizzled as he sustained injuries to not only his knees, but shoulder later in the season as well. Hodge played 102 snaps from scrimmage in 2006 and finished with 12 tackles. Hodge's sore knees prevented him from participating in practices throughout the off-season, and he has missed nearly a dozen training camp practices. In the meantime, the Packers selected University of California linebacker Desmond Bishop in the recent NFL draft, and Bishop has passed up Hodge as Barnett's top backup.</p><p></p><p>The Packers are not about to cut Bishop, who gave fans and the team a snapshot of his punch last Thursday against Jacksonville when he nearly knocked Reggie Williams' block off. Hodge? He seems to be headed either toward the season-ending injured reserve list, or released altogether. <strong>Because the Packers used a third-round pick on Hodge in 2006 (67th overall), they probably will place him on IR and hope that his ailing knees heal in time for next season</strong>. That seems to be the best move for Hodge and the team at this time. <strong>Hodge hasn't practiced at all this week and is not expected to play in Thursday's preseason finale at Tennessee. At this point, he has little value to the Packers or anyone else in the league because of his knees, so a year of rehab after a possible surgery and conditioning will only help Hodge and the Packers.</strong></p><p>______________________________________________________________</p><p></p><p><a href="http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672908" target="_blank">http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672908</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Sydney Speaks! It's not just the scheme!</strong> </p><p></p><p><strong>Green Bay's defense should be among the best in the NFL and special teams should improved this season</strong>, but the offense is still missing a key ingredient, says PackerReport.com's Harry Sydney. In three preseason games we have seen the directions and growth of this team, especially in certain areas which are directly impacted by Ted Thompson’s plan. I do like much of what he has done on the defensive side of the ball because if you read my stuff you know what I think about the defense and its play-makers. This defense could and should be one of the best defenses in the National Football League, not just the NFC. I say that because there really isn’t a weak area. I know that they still have some work to do, but I believe they have the personnel to get it done, of course, providing there are no key injuries.</p><p></p><p>The Packers have proven players on defense, they have players that for the most part have played in the league, and the expectations are real. They have been tested and you know what they can do. There isn’t a lot wondering or questioning, trying to determine if they might be able to do this or that with coaching, and in the right scheme. You can trust that Aaron Kampman, A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett, Al Harris, Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett and even Cullen Jenkins, because he is trying to make me a believer, would be players in any scheme. You have enough of these guys on defense to carry the load and help this team win, or at least I hope so, but the defense can’t do it alone. Special teams and offense has to do their share to win, but can they?</p><p></p><p>I think special teams will be better, but then again it’s not just the return guys that make the difference, it’s the guys blocking and they have to be better. Up to this point Will Blackmon should be the returner and since kickers are counted as the special teams I don’t think that the Packers can go wrong with either Mason Crosby or Dave Rayner. Again, the Packers appear to have two kickers that can get it done because they are just good enough. Some gimmick isn’t going to make them better they stand on their ability to kick. If you know me or listen to my radio show in Green Bay you would really understand how I feel about kickers.</p><p></p><p>Also, the special teams is where you find out about who has the desire. This is where you learn who is willing to run into that wall and take no prisoner stuff. Trust me, that doesn’t take long. This is where it’s more about heart than talent, but a good scheme doesn’t hurt. I’m looking for better production from this unit because it appears to have the athletes and they can’t be as bad as last year, I hope.</p><p></p><p>The defense and special teams will be better because they have the talent to be, but unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. Let me explain: <strong>On offense the Packers have Brett Favre who will do everything possible to help this team win, but he can’t carry this team on his back anymore. Those days are over. He’s not great anymore, but he’s still pretty good. He will be throwing to a group of receivers that so far in training camp have held their own</strong>. Donald Driver is what he is, and that’s an outstanding playmaker that hopefully won’t be sidelined by his injury too long. James Jones seems to be the real deal, thus far, and has been impressive because of his route running ability. So far he seems to have the ability to make the big play. Who knows, he might even take the number two job from Greg Jennings. As for the offensive line we all know they are a bunch of better than average athletes who are hoping the scheme will make them better. I understand what they are trying to do with their running game, but unfortunately, they forgot on important element. Any guesses????? <strong>Ted Thompson forgot the most important thing in the running game and that’s a running back. This back by committee only works when you have good backs. Brandon Jackson is an average back at best and Vernand Morency is the same guy</strong>.</p><p>_____________________________________________________________</p><p></p><p><a href="http://packers.scout.com/2/672732.html" target="_blank">http://packers.scout.com/2/672732.html</a></p><p></p><p><strong>The Word: Training Camp Day 31:</strong>Running game takes another hit; roster move; Crosby wins again </p><p></p><p>The Green Bay Packers may be without their top two running backs Thursday when they travel to play the Tennessee Titans in the preseason finale. <strong>Brandon Jackson did not practice today after sustaining a mild concussion in practice on Sunday. Coach Mike McCarthy said after practice that Jackson is “questionable” for the game on Thursday. Vernand Morency, who has been out since the first day of training camp, is not expected to play against the Titans. If Jackson and Morency do not play, McCarthy said that Noah Herron will start at running back and be backed up by rookies DeShawn Wynn and Corey White. Fullbacks Brandon Miree and Korey Hall are expected to play Thursday</strong>. The Packers will be taking a good look at Wynn, a seventh round pick. </p><p></p><p>Running back is the main area of concern as the Packers prepare for their opener Sept. 9 against Philadelphia. Morency is expected to suit up for that game, but there is no guarantee. Jackson has averaged a ho-hum 3.3 yards per carry on 40 attempts this preseason for a team-high 131 yards rushing. With Donald Driver hobbled after spraining his ankle in last Thursday’s preseason game against Jacksonville, the Packers are extra thin on playmakers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Rookie receiver James Jones has been impressive this preseason, which gives the Packers hope of another solid playmaker. Jones has a team-high 16 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns. If Driver is able to return by the opener, all the better for Green Bay. “I assume he’ll be back,” said Favre. “In talking with him, he feels the same way. Of course, when a player like that gets injured, it makes for good TV and radio and things like that, but it does concern you. I think he’ll fine, but being that he’s a receiver and it’s a foot injury, that is a concern being that he has to cut and do those things. Donald has played through injuries before. You talk with him and he’s very optimistic.” Despite the injuries in the backfield, McCarthy is not overly concerned. "I'm not as concerned about the running game as you are," McCarthy told reporters. "You want to win the game but this is a big game for us evaluation wise."</p><p></p><p><strong>Powdrell placed on injured reserve</strong></p><p></p><p>Fullback Ryan Powdrell was placed on injured reserve today, the Packers announced. Powdrell injured his MCL Aug. 18 against the Seattle Seahawks. By placing Powdrell, a non-drafted free agent from Southern California, on injured reserve, the Packers reduced their roster to 75 players.</p><p></p><p><strong>Play of the day</strong></p><p></p><p>Patrick Dendy got the first of his two interceptions off of third-string quarterback Paul Thompson during a red zone drill in a 7-on-7 drill thanks to cornerback Frank Walker. Walker jumped in front of tight end Carl-Johan Bjork and attempted to intercept the pass, but it bounced out of his arms and right to Dendy, who was in the right place at the right time.</p><p></p><p><strong>Stock up</strong></p><p></p><p>Orrin Thompson returned to practice today and it appears that he will be ready to play Thursday at Tennessee. That’s good news for Thompson, who is on the bubble of making the roster. Thompson had been playing left tackle behind Chad Clifton with the second-team offensive line through most of training camp and in the offseason practices. He sustained an MCL injury in a preseason game on Sept. 18 and was unable to practice until today. <strong>The final roster spot among offensive linemen appears to be between Thompson and guard/center Tony Palmer, who has been out with a hamstring injury since the first preseason game on Aug. 11. Palmer’s versatility plays in his favor, but Thompson’s size (6-foot-6, 322 pounds) may be too good to pass on for the Packers.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Stock down</strong></p><p></p><p>All eyes again were on Mason Crosby and Dave Rayner in today’s field goal kicking competition. Crosby again edged Rayner by making all but one of his attempts. Rayner missed wide left from 47 and 52 yards. Crosby’s only miss came when he was wide right from 52 yards. Both Rayner and Crosby have made all three of their field goal attempts during three preseason games. However, Crosby has made a few more attempts during practices and has displayed a stronger leg in both field goal attempts and kickoffs.</p><p></p><p><strong>Extra points</strong></p><p></p><p>-- Junius Coston practiced for the second straight day at right guard with the first unit in place of Jason Spitz, who is not expected to play on Thursday due to a calf injury.</p><p></p><p>-- Some fans were allowed inside the Hutson Center about 50 yards from the door along the east sideline. The fans were asked to leave by security guards about midway through practice. It marked one of the few times that the Packers have allowed fans inside the Hutson Center to watch a practice due to the restricted space around the field.</p><p></p><p><strong>-- Tuesday’s practice, which begins at 10 a.m. at Clarke Hinkle Field, will be the last of training camp that will be open to the public.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>-- Morency again was wearing pads today in the no pads practice. He often ran sprints along the sideline in front of reporters while the team was in 11-on-11 drills.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TOPHAT, post: 163267, member: 781"] [b]SCOUT.COM VIEW[/b] [url]http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672915[/url] [b]A diamond in the rough:[/b] Jones continues to silence draft-day doubters by making plays When the Green Bay Packers selected James Jones in the third round of the 2007 NFL draft, a lot of Packer fans were puzzled. The first question was WHO? Then people looked at the fact that Jones was selected two or three rounds ahead of schedule based on some of the draft guru information. Then there was the perception that Jones didn't have world class speed. People didn't realize that Jones was a bonafide playmaker at San Jose State. Also forgotten was the physical strengths that Jones possesses. Brett Favre has compared Jones physically to Sterling Sharpe. And then there are the hands. Jones has outstanding hands catching the football. Either way Jones didn't give much credence to the fans' opinions. Jones has had an excellent preseason so far catching 16 passes for 196 yards and two touchdowns, but Jones knows he still has to keep improving. "The main thing right now is just limiting my mistakes," Jones said. Jones knows that to be a complete receiver, all phases of his game have to be above average. That means blocking for the running game as well. [b]Jones will start this week along with second year receiver Greg Jennings as Donald Driver will sit out with a foot sprain. Jones might find that starting will soon become a habit. The Packers were poor in 2006 in the red zone and in converting third downs. A physical receiver like Jones, who has great hands, should help improve both of those areas[/b]. ______________________________________________________________ [url]http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672936[/url] [b]Linebacker's season nears end[/b] [b]Hodge should opt to repair ailing knees first, then focus on football, says PackerReport.com.[/b] Abdul Hodge will be traveling to New York on Wednesday to undergo further tests on his ailing knees. The Packers' medical staff says that Hodge has patellar tendonitis in both knees, but to be sure, Hodge will seek out further advice from the New York Giants' team doctor to determine if surgery is needed in one or both knees. Hodge's knee problems date back to last season, one that began with a lot of promise in training camp, but then fizzled as he sustained injuries to not only his knees, but shoulder later in the season as well. Hodge played 102 snaps from scrimmage in 2006 and finished with 12 tackles. Hodge's sore knees prevented him from participating in practices throughout the off-season, and he has missed nearly a dozen training camp practices. In the meantime, the Packers selected University of California linebacker Desmond Bishop in the recent NFL draft, and Bishop has passed up Hodge as Barnett's top backup. The Packers are not about to cut Bishop, who gave fans and the team a snapshot of his punch last Thursday against Jacksonville when he nearly knocked Reggie Williams' block off. Hodge? He seems to be headed either toward the season-ending injured reserve list, or released altogether. [b]Because the Packers used a third-round pick on Hodge in 2006 (67th overall), they probably will place him on IR and hope that his ailing knees heal in time for next season[/b]. That seems to be the best move for Hodge and the team at this time. [b]Hodge hasn't practiced at all this week and is not expected to play in Thursday's preseason finale at Tennessee. At this point, he has little value to the Packers or anyone else in the league because of his knees, so a year of rehab after a possible surgery and conditioning will only help Hodge and the Packers.[/b] ______________________________________________________________ [url]http://packers.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=672908[/url] [b]Sydney Speaks! It's not just the scheme![/b] [b]Green Bay's defense should be among the best in the NFL and special teams should improved this season[/b], but the offense is still missing a key ingredient, says PackerReport.com's Harry Sydney. In three preseason games we have seen the directions and growth of this team, especially in certain areas which are directly impacted by Ted Thompson’s plan. I do like much of what he has done on the defensive side of the ball because if you read my stuff you know what I think about the defense and its play-makers. This defense could and should be one of the best defenses in the National Football League, not just the NFC. I say that because there really isn’t a weak area. I know that they still have some work to do, but I believe they have the personnel to get it done, of course, providing there are no key injuries. The Packers have proven players on defense, they have players that for the most part have played in the league, and the expectations are real. They have been tested and you know what they can do. There isn’t a lot wondering or questioning, trying to determine if they might be able to do this or that with coaching, and in the right scheme. You can trust that Aaron Kampman, A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett, Al Harris, Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett and even Cullen Jenkins, because he is trying to make me a believer, would be players in any scheme. You have enough of these guys on defense to carry the load and help this team win, or at least I hope so, but the defense can’t do it alone. Special teams and offense has to do their share to win, but can they? I think special teams will be better, but then again it’s not just the return guys that make the difference, it’s the guys blocking and they have to be better. Up to this point Will Blackmon should be the returner and since kickers are counted as the special teams I don’t think that the Packers can go wrong with either Mason Crosby or Dave Rayner. Again, the Packers appear to have two kickers that can get it done because they are just good enough. Some gimmick isn’t going to make them better they stand on their ability to kick. If you know me or listen to my radio show in Green Bay you would really understand how I feel about kickers. Also, the special teams is where you find out about who has the desire. This is where you learn who is willing to run into that wall and take no prisoner stuff. Trust me, that doesn’t take long. This is where it’s more about heart than talent, but a good scheme doesn’t hurt. I’m looking for better production from this unit because it appears to have the athletes and they can’t be as bad as last year, I hope. The defense and special teams will be better because they have the talent to be, but unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. Let me explain: [b]On offense the Packers have Brett Favre who will do everything possible to help this team win, but he can’t carry this team on his back anymore. Those days are over. He’s not great anymore, but he’s still pretty good. He will be throwing to a group of receivers that so far in training camp have held their own[/b]. Donald Driver is what he is, and that’s an outstanding playmaker that hopefully won’t be sidelined by his injury too long. James Jones seems to be the real deal, thus far, and has been impressive because of his route running ability. So far he seems to have the ability to make the big play. Who knows, he might even take the number two job from Greg Jennings. As for the offensive line we all know they are a bunch of better than average athletes who are hoping the scheme will make them better. I understand what they are trying to do with their running game, but unfortunately, they forgot on important element. Any guesses????? [b]Ted Thompson forgot the most important thing in the running game and that’s a running back. This back by committee only works when you have good backs. Brandon Jackson is an average back at best and Vernand Morency is the same guy[/b]. _____________________________________________________________ [url]http://packers.scout.com/2/672732.html[/url] [b]The Word: Training Camp Day 31:[/b]Running game takes another hit; roster move; Crosby wins again The Green Bay Packers may be without their top two running backs Thursday when they travel to play the Tennessee Titans in the preseason finale. [b]Brandon Jackson did not practice today after sustaining a mild concussion in practice on Sunday. Coach Mike McCarthy said after practice that Jackson is “questionable” for the game on Thursday. Vernand Morency, who has been out since the first day of training camp, is not expected to play against the Titans. If Jackson and Morency do not play, McCarthy said that Noah Herron will start at running back and be backed up by rookies DeShawn Wynn and Corey White. Fullbacks Brandon Miree and Korey Hall are expected to play Thursday[/b]. The Packers will be taking a good look at Wynn, a seventh round pick. Running back is the main area of concern as the Packers prepare for their opener Sept. 9 against Philadelphia. Morency is expected to suit up for that game, but there is no guarantee. Jackson has averaged a ho-hum 3.3 yards per carry on 40 attempts this preseason for a team-high 131 yards rushing. With Donald Driver hobbled after spraining his ankle in last Thursday’s preseason game against Jacksonville, the Packers are extra thin on playmakers. Rookie receiver James Jones has been impressive this preseason, which gives the Packers hope of another solid playmaker. Jones has a team-high 16 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns. If Driver is able to return by the opener, all the better for Green Bay. “I assume he’ll be back,” said Favre. “In talking with him, he feels the same way. Of course, when a player like that gets injured, it makes for good TV and radio and things like that, but it does concern you. I think he’ll fine, but being that he’s a receiver and it’s a foot injury, that is a concern being that he has to cut and do those things. Donald has played through injuries before. You talk with him and he’s very optimistic.” Despite the injuries in the backfield, McCarthy is not overly concerned. "I'm not as concerned about the running game as you are," McCarthy told reporters. "You want to win the game but this is a big game for us evaluation wise." [b]Powdrell placed on injured reserve[/b] Fullback Ryan Powdrell was placed on injured reserve today, the Packers announced. Powdrell injured his MCL Aug. 18 against the Seattle Seahawks. By placing Powdrell, a non-drafted free agent from Southern California, on injured reserve, the Packers reduced their roster to 75 players. [b]Play of the day[/b] Patrick Dendy got the first of his two interceptions off of third-string quarterback Paul Thompson during a red zone drill in a 7-on-7 drill thanks to cornerback Frank Walker. Walker jumped in front of tight end Carl-Johan Bjork and attempted to intercept the pass, but it bounced out of his arms and right to Dendy, who was in the right place at the right time. [b]Stock up[/b] Orrin Thompson returned to practice today and it appears that he will be ready to play Thursday at Tennessee. That’s good news for Thompson, who is on the bubble of making the roster. Thompson had been playing left tackle behind Chad Clifton with the second-team offensive line through most of training camp and in the offseason practices. He sustained an MCL injury in a preseason game on Sept. 18 and was unable to practice until today. [b]The final roster spot among offensive linemen appears to be between Thompson and guard/center Tony Palmer, who has been out with a hamstring injury since the first preseason game on Aug. 11. Palmer’s versatility plays in his favor, but Thompson’s size (6-foot-6, 322 pounds) may be too good to pass on for the Packers.[/b] [b]Stock down[/b] All eyes again were on Mason Crosby and Dave Rayner in today’s field goal kicking competition. Crosby again edged Rayner by making all but one of his attempts. Rayner missed wide left from 47 and 52 yards. Crosby’s only miss came when he was wide right from 52 yards. Both Rayner and Crosby have made all three of their field goal attempts during three preseason games. However, Crosby has made a few more attempts during practices and has displayed a stronger leg in both field goal attempts and kickoffs. [b]Extra points[/b] -- Junius Coston practiced for the second straight day at right guard with the first unit in place of Jason Spitz, who is not expected to play on Thursday due to a calf injury. -- Some fans were allowed inside the Hutson Center about 50 yards from the door along the east sideline. The fans were asked to leave by security guards about midway through practice. It marked one of the few times that the Packers have allowed fans inside the Hutson Center to watch a practice due to the restricted space around the field. [b]-- Tuesday’s practice, which begins at 10 a.m. at Clarke Hinkle Field, will be the last of training camp that will be open to the public.[/b] [b]-- Morency again was wearing pads today in the no pads practice. He often ran sprints along the sideline in front of reporters while the team was in 11-on-11 drills.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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