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<blockquote data-quote="whakka" data-source="post: 422387" data-attributes="member: 6119"><p>i am a giants fan. i just got here this morning and was looking for some good conversation about the giants packers game. i will offer my perspective as someone who has been following the giants pretty closely. if there are grammar nazis here, too bad, i do not capitalize and rarely use apostrophes. get over it.</p><p> </p><p>i saw some posts earlier in this thread that were just nonsense, so, lets start off with this:</p><p> </p><p>eli is an "elite" quarterback. whether you like it or not, it is what it is, his body of work speaks for itself. he is in the top echelon. he is a superbowl mvp. the numbers are there. almost 5000 yards (with a 2nd year un-drafted free agent who was hurt his entire first year [cruz], a 3rd year journeyman [nicks], a tight end they pulled off the practice squad [ballard], and theres a 3rd wr thats been around about 3-4 years [manningham]. ) he did that with almost no run game to keep the opponents defense honest, and an injured frankenstein o-line. and made his receivers look good doing it. he set an all time record for most 4th quarter touchdowns over johnny unitas and peyton, with this group of receivers. but it isnt all numbers. i saw some sillyness in an earlier post saying that he wasnt mentally tough enough to get over bad passes or something. whatever. eli is the coldest qb ive ever seen in the clutch this year. this guy is the only reason the giants made it to the tournament. he carried an injured and dysfunctional team on his back for the majority of the season till the rest of them decided to get their crap together. any other year he would be up for mvp, but he is overshadowed by the feats of brees and rodgers, who deserve every bit of credit they get after their monster seasons, but so does manning. the thing is, any fan of football who loves the game and can be honest with themselves can see all this. people like to hate on others and downgrade them to ease their fears or make themselves feel better i guess. this weekend eli is coming to town, and the way you guys think your team is unbeatable and your qb is a god, [edit]if/when eli walks out with a win, i wonder how many here are going to have the sand to admit they were wrong.</p><p> </p><p>now, i havent followed the packers as closely as i have the giants, so im not totally sure about injuries, chemistry, ect..., other than the couple of games and highlight reels that i caught. i do know the dominance that the packers have been having, which, as a realist giant fan makes me nervous. i know we had that close game earlier in the season, but that doesnt really make me feel better. the giants, just to stay up with the packers are going to have to bring their "a" game- to beat them on their home turf will be a true measure of the heart of this giants team. what i can say is that as a giants fan this whole scenario has that epic feel. i mean, even in this thread the giants were being counted out back in week 17, here we are in the divisional round and not only is big blue in it, but dominating along the way. to go on the road and into green bay and get to play a team as great as this seasons 15-1 packers- is epic. add to that the underdog status that the giants have been tagged with, the history, and the freezing cold and we have a truly epic matchup. at least from a giants' fans' perspective.</p><p> </p><p>im sure you have all heard that the giants have osi back and bradshaw back. what those stories dont tell is the team has come together. they got healthy and started to really gel since the jets game, and each game they are looking better and better, especially on defense. the one thing i worry about is the giants cb [amukamara 20]. he is a rookie, got hurt early on and when he did show up opposing qb's were picking on him really bad. he seems like a good kid and a very gifted athlete, and i think that hell come along, but when? i also think the falcons game was kind of skewed by just plain bad coaching on the atlanta side, i mean i could have coached that game better than that mike smith guy, just unbelievable. maybe that evened out all the ridiculousness of the refs calls, bad spots and non-calls that were a benifit to atl though.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>things that i think benefit the giants or are a bad thing for the packers:</strong></p><p> </p><p>the giants have a huge head of steam. coming off three huge wins in a row (basically all playoff games).</p><p> </p><p>the giants are finally an almost fully healthy team.</p><p> </p><p>the giants are finally becoming a "team". they have rallied around coughlin and have finally started to gel.</p><p> </p><p>i think that the giants are hungry. the change in demeanor over the last month is just weird to have watched happen. a month ago the giants were a different team. they seemed to be overcome with their downfall, now they seem to be focused and disciplined, relatively speaking.</p><p> </p><p>i also think that the 2 weeks off could be detrimental to the packers. it could go either way. the rest may be just what doctor ordered for the pack or it could have taken their edge. sometimes teams come out really flat after a bye week or two.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>my worries as a giants fan:</strong></p><p> </p><p>our secondary is really shaky if our d-line cant get good pressure, especially wherever #20 is.</p><p> </p><p>i have also noticed tuck favoring his shoulder a bit in that atlanta game. that is not good.</p><p> </p><p>of course taking on the super bowl champion 15-1 packers, in lambeau, who already beat us once this year doesnt make me feel real good either.</p><p> </p><p>realistically, its the playoffs- either team can win. there are always a few upsets in the post season, and always some dominant teams that knock off underdogs. we will get to watch these guys beat the hell out of each other on a really cold afternoon to see who is moving on. i like both teams, but i am a life-long giants fan. the packers are a true test, and if the giants can win in lambeau, they deserve to go to the next level. if the packers win, i hope the giants at least give them one hell of a fight for it.</p><p> </p><p>[edit]adding a couple of fun things for you packers fans to look at:</p><p> </p><p>[media=youtube]GWjU87kvdEA[/media]</p><p> </p><p>[media=youtube]TULbChC06qU[/media]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="whakka, post: 422387, member: 6119"] i am a giants fan. i just got here this morning and was looking for some good conversation about the giants packers game. i will offer my perspective as someone who has been following the giants pretty closely. if there are grammar nazis here, too bad, i do not capitalize and rarely use apostrophes. get over it. i saw some posts earlier in this thread that were just nonsense, so, lets start off with this: eli is an "elite" quarterback. whether you like it or not, it is what it is, his body of work speaks for itself. he is in the top echelon. he is a superbowl mvp. the numbers are there. almost 5000 yards (with a 2nd year un-drafted free agent who was hurt his entire first year [cruz], a 3rd year journeyman [nicks], a tight end they pulled off the practice squad [ballard], and theres a 3rd wr thats been around about 3-4 years [manningham]. ) he did that with almost no run game to keep the opponents defense honest, and an injured frankenstein o-line. and made his receivers look good doing it. he set an all time record for most 4th quarter touchdowns over johnny unitas and peyton, with this group of receivers. but it isnt all numbers. i saw some sillyness in an earlier post saying that he wasnt mentally tough enough to get over bad passes or something. whatever. eli is the coldest qb ive ever seen in the clutch this year. this guy is the only reason the giants made it to the tournament. he carried an injured and dysfunctional team on his back for the majority of the season till the rest of them decided to get their crap together. any other year he would be up for mvp, but he is overshadowed by the feats of brees and rodgers, who deserve every bit of credit they get after their monster seasons, but so does manning. the thing is, any fan of football who loves the game and can be honest with themselves can see all this. people like to hate on others and downgrade them to ease their fears or make themselves feel better i guess. this weekend eli is coming to town, and the way you guys think your team is unbeatable and your qb is a god, [edit]if/when eli walks out with a win, i wonder how many here are going to have the sand to admit they were wrong. now, i havent followed the packers as closely as i have the giants, so im not totally sure about injuries, chemistry, ect..., other than the couple of games and highlight reels that i caught. i do know the dominance that the packers have been having, which, as a realist giant fan makes me nervous. i know we had that close game earlier in the season, but that doesnt really make me feel better. the giants, just to stay up with the packers are going to have to bring their "a" game- to beat them on their home turf will be a true measure of the heart of this giants team. what i can say is that as a giants fan this whole scenario has that epic feel. i mean, even in this thread the giants were being counted out back in week 17, here we are in the divisional round and not only is big blue in it, but dominating along the way. to go on the road and into green bay and get to play a team as great as this seasons 15-1 packers- is epic. add to that the underdog status that the giants have been tagged with, the history, and the freezing cold and we have a truly epic matchup. at least from a giants' fans' perspective. im sure you have all heard that the giants have osi back and bradshaw back. what those stories dont tell is the team has come together. they got healthy and started to really gel since the jets game, and each game they are looking better and better, especially on defense. the one thing i worry about is the giants cb [amukamara 20]. he is a rookie, got hurt early on and when he did show up opposing qb's were picking on him really bad. he seems like a good kid and a very gifted athlete, and i think that hell come along, but when? i also think the falcons game was kind of skewed by just plain bad coaching on the atlanta side, i mean i could have coached that game better than that mike smith guy, just unbelievable. maybe that evened out all the ridiculousness of the refs calls, bad spots and non-calls that were a benifit to atl though. [B]things that i think benefit the giants or are a bad thing for the packers:[/B] the giants have a huge head of steam. coming off three huge wins in a row (basically all playoff games). the giants are finally an almost fully healthy team. the giants are finally becoming a "team". they have rallied around coughlin and have finally started to gel. i think that the giants are hungry. the change in demeanor over the last month is just weird to have watched happen. a month ago the giants were a different team. they seemed to be overcome with their downfall, now they seem to be focused and disciplined, relatively speaking. i also think that the 2 weeks off could be detrimental to the packers. it could go either way. the rest may be just what doctor ordered for the pack or it could have taken their edge. sometimes teams come out really flat after a bye week or two. [B]my worries as a giants fan:[/B] our secondary is really shaky if our d-line cant get good pressure, especially wherever #20 is. i have also noticed tuck favoring his shoulder a bit in that atlanta game. that is not good. of course taking on the super bowl champion 15-1 packers, in lambeau, who already beat us once this year doesnt make me feel real good either. realistically, its the playoffs- either team can win. there are always a few upsets in the post season, and always some dominant teams that knock off underdogs. we will get to watch these guys beat the hell out of each other on a really cold afternoon to see who is moving on. i like both teams, but i am a life-long giants fan. the packers are a true test, and if the giants can win in lambeau, they deserve to go to the next level. if the packers win, i hope the giants at least give them one hell of a fight for it. [edit]adding a couple of fun things for you packers fans to look at: [media=youtube]GWjU87kvdEA[/media] [media=youtube]TULbChC06qU[/media] [/QUOTE]
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