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OFFICIAL DEFENSIVE ISSUES THREAD

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Southpaw, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. dbain21

    dbain21 Chicagoland Packer Fan

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    While I thought the pass rush was decent this game it wasn't special, and we still need to blitz 3 men to get pressure. If Neal can come back healthy and give us some pressure than maybe we won't have to blitz clay and we can drop him back to help with coverage.
     
  2. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    When Neal comes back though, will he be an impact player right away? I have doubts
     
  3. Rodgers in the House

    Rodgers in the House Cheesehead

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    I give the 9ers all legitimacy. I knew the minute they actually brought in a real coach they were going to be a great team. If anyone thinks any of the coaches they've had for the last eight years were even worthy to be on the sideline you're sorely mistaken.

    Either way the Packers will beat them on experience alone.
     
  4. Unomee

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    At 8-0 yes, but would like to see better production from the defense. They will certainly need to do so come playoff time though true, they are good at getting INT's; at least two game I believe and have saved the day with these.
     
  5. Texas9erFan

    Texas9erFan Cheesehead

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    The Packers indeed have a real issue with thier defense. I don't know if it's Dom Capers fault or not. But it looks to me like the Pack should be drafting or acquiring thru FA, a lot of defensive players next year.
     
  6. Marem19

    Marem19 Cheesehead

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    its always the same when a team goes into prevent the other qb get all those dump of passes and gets into a rhythm and ends up scoring. I know this arm chair coach of me but when we were up my 3 scores is when the time we should have went for the more risky blitzes and had a CB come in. I think this performance can be put more on DC
     
  7. Croak

    Croak Terminally twisted.

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    That's not the way TT works. He always drafts the best available player on the board, regardless of position.
     
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  8. 7thFloorRA

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    Capers needs to do something creative with clay as he is not getting much done now with all of the double teams and average play. If the OLB's can't get any pressure generated then they might as well go into coverage. Let Bishop and Hawk do some of the blitzing for a while.
     
  9. Ceodore

    Ceodore Cheesehead

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    I'd rather see them get PI calls everytime than watching receivers catch the ball with no GB defenders in the same TV screen. Obviously not really with the PI calls, but i'd rather see them sticking with guys and trying to bat the ball away rather than (this is what im assuming is happening) gambling on interceptions and guessing wrong.
     
  10. TheDreamDoctor

    TheDreamDoctor Cheesehead

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    Absolutely! No offensive players above round 4! At this rate I'm afraid to play anyone! I do not want to feel this way.
     
  11. Bogart

    Bogart Duke Mantee

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    Today really bothered me defensively.

    There were many times they left Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates wide open, but other than that, they would drop linebackers back to cover guys, knowing it hasn't been working all year, why isn't our corner backs and safeties on the guys?

    I'm not very happy with the lack of pass rush either. 4 man rush has been awful, and most of all, this game should have been over when it was 24-45. They let San Diego march up and down the field all day, just praying on turnovers to come around our side, and they did in the end, but at the same time, we should not have let that game get so out of hand. It should have been wrapped up after the last touchdown to rack up 45 points.
     
  12. Bogart

    Bogart Duke Mantee

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    Why are they putting linebackers to cover the WR's? That's what the corner backs should do. It worked pretty good forcing 2 interceptions early, but most the game, they were leaving guys WIDE *** OPEN all day, especially Vincent Jackson that racked up 100 receiving yards in just the first quarter.
     
  13. Ceodore

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    a win is not win.

    A 45-24 routine win is a win.

    A 45-38 win by clinging to life is a failure for an elite team like the packers.

    The defense was horrible and the offense was definately not "flawless" How many times did Rodgers get sacked today or get tackled for little to no gain? Some of that was Rodgers holding the ball too long and some of it was on the OL.
     
  14. Bart

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    Well i just think many are concerned about the defense, they are playing really bad right now and im worried that it will hit us in the playoff.
     
  15. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    Haters gonna hate.

    Yeah, let's ignore that the D helped out with 3 INTs. One for the closer and two others for scores.

    The d-fence is not as bad as you all are claiming it is. If it was, Pack would be 0-8 instead.
    Give 'em credit for not letting the Chargers or any other team, win.
     
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  16. Texas9erFan

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    That's what Bill Walsh did too.
     
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  17. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    Because our defense is terrible, fukstick.

    There is no such thing as flawless offense, especially when Rodgers is getting sacked all the time.

    Turnovers depend on the either the opposing QB making a terrible throw or our DB's being in the right place.

    There aren't a whole lot of Phillip Rivers playing QB in this league and a lot of the time, our DB's are not in the right position and they end up getting burned on big plays.

    I laugh when I think about how some people on here would do as a coach of a team.

    "hey gang we gave up a sh!t ton of yards and we nearly got beat by an Qb having the worst year of his career, but we still won, so we don't really need to work on anything or improve"

    That's like saying hey my dial up internet connection still works, so why upgrade, even though it's slow as fuk and there is better technology.

    a lot of people on here are afraid to be critical for some odd reason, I'm not and you will continue to hear it. There is no such thing as perfect team regardless if they haven't lost. There is always room for improvement and evolution.
     
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  18. dbain21

    dbain21 Chicagoland Packer Fan

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    I really hope MM addresses the D in his post game presser. He doesn't need to rip them, but i hope he acknowledges it needs work, as I'm sure the media will be picking at the issue. Hopefully he doesn't dismiss the questions and says "were 8-0 and thats it" cause the problems need to be addressed if were gonna repeat.
    I liked how after the game the fox sideline reporter interviewed A-rod and you could see he was disappointed with the D's performance, he didn't look too happy. he said the game shouldn't have gotten so close, or something to that effect.
     
  19. Bensalama21

    Bensalama21 Ben

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    Yes, but every QB isn't Rivers or Cutler either. (The other side of them)
     
  20. Unomee

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    That won't matter if it's a GB win. :D
     
  21. Ceodore

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    The pack almost let an average team make an epic comeback against them today. A better team with an elite QB that doesnt throw 3 INT's beats them today.
     
  22. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    Why is it that when I have constructive criticism, I'm a hater? God Damn people here are more hyper sensitive than my girlfriend. A turnover often has just as much to do with the QB throwing the ball, than the defensive back intercepting it.

    Rivers is having an abysmal season and still managed to pass for 4 touchdowns. He didn't even have those kinds of stats against New Englands defense which is ranked even lower than ours.

    Turnovers aren't a guarantee
     
  23. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    We are fine after choking up a 3 possession lead and I'm in denial that something is wrong with our defense? I'll be the realist, you can continue living in a fantasy land
     
  24. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    Who is arguing that a win is a win and that is good? The fashion which this game played out is what we are unhappy with. What is so hard to understand about that?
     
  25. PackPackPackers

    PackPackPackers Cheesehead

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    Yuh, so your point is...?

    You just gotta accept things, Packers have a recent history of WINNING. Uh...they are probably going to go 16-0.
     

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