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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 658508"><p>I don't think there's any question his draft stock is below his talent level because of his checkered history.</p><p></p><p>However, Gregory and his ilk are in another category. Gregory is one of the transcendental idiots or addicts, whichever applies, to which I earlier referred. Gregory tested positive at the Combine. How does a player let that happen unless he's an idiot or an addict? That indicates a problem in progress at the time of the draft. Then Gregory busted out in the "program", getting hit with that 4 game suspension. Now it looks confirmed to be an addition problem, while not discounting he may also be a knucklehead.</p><p></p><p>Spence played through last season, under intensive testing, without an issue, which indicates a meaningfully lower risk profile than Gregory. It's been a year and a half since he was banned by the Big Ten, and at least a year of testing clean.</p><p></p><p>I still wonder about the alcohol, though, which in general doesn't get much attention, except when a player gets busted for a DUI. Alcohol is tested under the NFL protocols with a violation threshold below most state DUI levels, but it clears the system pretty fast allowing a problem to hidden. I don't think we expect NFL players to sit home at night knitting afghans. But a bona fine alcohol problem is a deal breaker.</p><p></p><p>If there's a way to be confident his one alcohol incident was really a one-off involving 2 glasses of wine, then I would assess the risk as relatively low compared to other "character issue" guys. Just meeting with the guy can't be counted on to yield a foolproof assessment, but it might turn up an obvious red flag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 658508"] I don't think there's any question his draft stock is below his talent level because of his checkered history. However, Gregory and his ilk are in another category. Gregory is one of the transcendental idiots or addicts, whichever applies, to which I earlier referred. Gregory tested positive at the Combine. How does a player let that happen unless he's an idiot or an addict? That indicates a problem in progress at the time of the draft. Then Gregory busted out in the "program", getting hit with that 4 game suspension. Now it looks confirmed to be an addition problem, while not discounting he may also be a knucklehead. Spence played through last season, under intensive testing, without an issue, which indicates a meaningfully lower risk profile than Gregory. It's been a year and a half since he was banned by the Big Ten, and at least a year of testing clean. I still wonder about the alcohol, though, which in general doesn't get much attention, except when a player gets busted for a DUI. Alcohol is tested under the NFL protocols with a violation threshold below most state DUI levels, but it clears the system pretty fast allowing a problem to hidden. I don't think we expect NFL players to sit home at night knitting afghans. But a bona fine alcohol problem is a deal breaker. If there's a way to be confident his one alcohol incident was really a one-off involving 2 glasses of wine, then I would assess the risk as relatively low compared to other "character issue" guys. Just meeting with the guy can't be counted on to yield a foolproof assessment, but it might turn up an obvious red flag. [/QUOTE]
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