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<blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 1065263" data-attributes="member: 655"><p>Ah, the Tark thing. That's easy. Two different leagues back then. He was a 3rd pick for MN and 5th rd pick for Boston. Separate Drafts, different rules. AFL had the 2-point conversion. MN was initially slated to be an AFL team until the NFL made them an offer. </p><p></p><p>I'll go so far as he was the reason we lost the last 3 Super Bowls. People think of him as some great QB because of the records at the time. And I did as well. Then I started looking at things differently. He was an average QB who could run around winning based not on his skill, but the skill of the Defense. His first 5 years back, when they lost 3 Super Bowls, the Defense was giving up 13.9 ppg during that time. </p><p></p><p>Now, can you imagine for one minute, if Love or for that matter, Rodgers, had a defense that gave up 13.9 ppg? (well adjusted for the slight increase in points over the years, 15.5 ppg.) For 5 years in a row. Here's a little stat for you. The Packers have 4 Super Bowls. In every one of those years, the Packers' defense gave up 15 ppg or less. But it's the QB that gets the glory. Don't get me wrong, the QB matters. Which is why I blame Tarkenton for the Vikings' Super Bowl losses. A good defense with a good QB that doesn't make mistakes will win the Super Bowl 95% of the time. Since 2003 the average SB winner had a point differential of 7.5 ppg. So, you need a QB that can score more than a TD per game or a defense that makes it easier on the QB. But this should be all on a different thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raptorman, post: 1065263, member: 655"] Ah, the Tark thing. That's easy. Two different leagues back then. He was a 3rd pick for MN and 5th rd pick for Boston. Separate Drafts, different rules. AFL had the 2-point conversion. MN was initially slated to be an AFL team until the NFL made them an offer. I'll go so far as he was the reason we lost the last 3 Super Bowls. People think of him as some great QB because of the records at the time. And I did as well. Then I started looking at things differently. He was an average QB who could run around winning based not on his skill, but the skill of the Defense. His first 5 years back, when they lost 3 Super Bowls, the Defense was giving up 13.9 ppg during that time. Now, can you imagine for one minute, if Love or for that matter, Rodgers, had a defense that gave up 13.9 ppg? (well adjusted for the slight increase in points over the years, 15.5 ppg.) For 5 years in a row. Here's a little stat for you. The Packers have 4 Super Bowls. In every one of those years, the Packers' defense gave up 15 ppg or less. But it's the QB that gets the glory. Don't get me wrong, the QB matters. Which is why I blame Tarkenton for the Vikings' Super Bowl losses. A good defense with a good QB that doesn't make mistakes will win the Super Bowl 95% of the time. Since 2003 the average SB winner had a point differential of 7.5 ppg. So, you need a QB that can score more than a TD per game or a defense that makes it easier on the QB. But this should be all on a different thread. [/QUOTE]
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