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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1072193" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>The tricky thing too is that IMO it's just as much about "trusting the system" as it is trusting your receivers, too. The whole "throwing your man open" means trusting in the system and play design AND trusting that your WR is able to execute it properly. The QB can be all bought in on the system, route design, etc, but if he throws it to the "spot" (where the open man *should* end up being) rather than when the WR is actually open...then if the WR doesn't execute properly it ends up being a bad miss or INT. And fair or not - those almost always reflect more poorly on the QB than the WR. I think this is something we saw a lot with Rodgers - IMO he didn't have any (or many <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tongue.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" />) issues with the "system" or play design or route progressions or whatever...but he didn't always have that trust in his WR(s). In this sense it didn't matter how bought in to the system he was; there were just certain throws he wasn't going to make because he couldn't trust his WR to be in an inch-perfect position to make a play on it. </p><p></p><p>I remember years ago watching a breakdown with some former QB (I forget who at this point, haha) but he was basically talking about how so many plays are predicated on having such precise timing and that's something we often don't see as fans. It might look like a guy is open (or about to be) but the QB doesn't get them the ball. And sometimes that's because they simply didn't see them or something "easy" like that...but other times the QB hasn't worked through his progression how he's supposed to yet. Maybe he's just finished his drop and doesn't have his feet set to make that throw. Maybe the receiver is only open because they ran the wrong route or broke at the wrong time and just happened to end up being open as a result. And so you wind up in these situations where if the QB's going to hit that guy...to do so requires them to work outside that system. In other words - somewhat ironically - sometimes "trusting the system" in fact means that you DO don't always hit the "open" guy. (And I think sometimes you see coaches specifically ask this, too - they want their QB to give plays more time to develop and work through their full progression before making the throw rather than cutting the play "short" because they see someone open, you know?)</p><p></p><p>Now I am not saying this is all necessarily the case with Love either; I have had my share of critiques as well, but it's more or less just food for thought I guess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1072193, member: 17987"] The tricky thing too is that IMO it's just as much about "trusting the system" as it is trusting your receivers, too. The whole "throwing your man open" means trusting in the system and play design AND trusting that your WR is able to execute it properly. The QB can be all bought in on the system, route design, etc, but if he throws it to the "spot" (where the open man *should* end up being) rather than when the WR is actually open...then if the WR doesn't execute properly it ends up being a bad miss or INT. And fair or not - those almost always reflect more poorly on the QB than the WR. I think this is something we saw a lot with Rodgers - IMO he didn't have any (or many :P) issues with the "system" or play design or route progressions or whatever...but he didn't always have that trust in his WR(s). In this sense it didn't matter how bought in to the system he was; there were just certain throws he wasn't going to make because he couldn't trust his WR to be in an inch-perfect position to make a play on it. I remember years ago watching a breakdown with some former QB (I forget who at this point, haha) but he was basically talking about how so many plays are predicated on having such precise timing and that's something we often don't see as fans. It might look like a guy is open (or about to be) but the QB doesn't get them the ball. And sometimes that's because they simply didn't see them or something "easy" like that...but other times the QB hasn't worked through his progression how he's supposed to yet. Maybe he's just finished his drop and doesn't have his feet set to make that throw. Maybe the receiver is only open because they ran the wrong route or broke at the wrong time and just happened to end up being open as a result. And so you wind up in these situations where if the QB's going to hit that guy...to do so requires them to work outside that system. In other words - somewhat ironically - sometimes "trusting the system" in fact means that you DO don't always hit the "open" guy. (And I think sometimes you see coaches specifically ask this, too - they want their QB to give plays more time to develop and work through their full progression before making the throw rather than cutting the play "short" because they see someone open, you know?) Now I am not saying this is all necessarily the case with Love either; I have had my share of critiques as well, but it's more or less just food for thought I guess. [/QUOTE]
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